I understand and agree. Though I like using a motor since I believe that at different times of day, the dish actually needs to be oriented in a slightly different manner for best signal reception. I don't know if this is caused by weather, temperature, the presence of vegetation near the dish, humidity, etc. Now, at 11:00 pm local time, LPB is strong and the HD channel is just great to watch. I receive Telemundo more easily than LPB, but it's weaker than Patient as you say. Though Telemundo is blank now; perhaps it's off the air at this time of night. I am working on getting a dedicated dish fixed on 125W. Just need some nice weather to get it done.