Thanks guys. Its been a long time since the mid ninety's and DBS forums. Is that right, metro? Weren't you 19 once? Directv didn't pay $200 of the $240 programming credits. At this point there is no win back offer that would be enough. There wasn't with Dish after 11+ years and they offered the farm, in 2008. There wasn't with Directv in '97, after 2 1/2 years, and there won't be one now. And no, this isn't Bob Haller speaking. Time for some uverse and thanks again.