Seriously Dish? Replacing 1080 resolution with 720.

[navychop]

Yes, with its higher frame rate 720p should be superior for motion. 1080i would be superior for static images. But many other factors may overwhelm the distinction, and affect the end result to a greater degree.

1080 60P would be great! But- not an ATSC standard. Overtaken by UHD anyway, with it dumping the interlaced formats.

 

[harshness]

1080 60P would be great! But- not an ATSC standard.

At the same time, everyone assumes that all 720p is always ~60fps, but it could be ~24fps or ~30fps (frame_rate_code 1,2,4,5). The only thing 720 isn't allowed to be is interlaced.

You have to imagine that the channels with multiple HD streams are doing something pretty dastardly to make it happen.

 

[KAB]

OP, what size screen are you making your judgement from? Under 50", the difference between 720p and and 1080i is negligible. So do you REALLY see a difference, or just THINK you do because you obviously think 1080i is so superior?

 

[harshness]

OP, what size screen are you making your judgement from? Under 50", the difference between 720p and and 1080i is negligible. So do you REALLY see a difference, or just THINK you do?

The video output isn't the issue here.

The TS is using software to tell them what they're seeing (and it may be right) versus an actual audition.

 

[KAB]

The video output isn't the issue here.

The TS is using software to tell them what they're seeing (and it may be right) versus an actual audition.

My point!

 

[ChadT41]

If I cant see, I do not care. If I am satisfied with what I have, I also do not care. But on a brighter note, my nieces softball team, whom I coach, won tonight with an astounding 5-1 record. Best in the league so far by 3 games(everyone else has atleast 3 losses). There, that should end arguments...

 

[navychop]

But did you record it in 720 or 1080?

 

[ChadT41]

But did you record it in 720 or 1080?

LOL..... Please tell me that was to me!!!!

 

[navychop]

But of course!

 

[ChadT41]

I had it recorded on the roll film from the 30's...with the handle you had to turn yourself to make the film roll..... Best sports action coverage you can get....

 

[ronjohn]

Yes, with its higher frame rate 720p should be superior for motion. 1080i would be superior for static images. But many other factors may overwhelm the distinction, and affect the end result to a greater degree.

It depends on the compression also. When I watch NFL on my local FOX station(at 720), it is so compressed that the turf looks extremely grainy as the camera pans. You can see some motion blur around the players, but it is is the turf that makes it almost unwatchable to me. The local CBS station looks very good, turf and player movement. That is the case whether I watch on Dish or OTA.

 

[Scherrman]

Can anyone here seriously tell the difference between 720p and 1080i? I myself can't really tell the difference. I actually keep my receiver's output set to 720p because I prefer to have the progressive frame rate.

 

[Hall]

Can anyone here seriously tell the difference between 720p and 1080i? I myself can't really tell the difference. I actually keep my receiver's output set to 720p because I prefer to have the progressive frame rate.

Apparently you can since you set your receiver output to a specific setting for the reason you state.

 

[Tampa8]

Perhaps your .ts interpreter is mis-interpreting or the DVR only contains recordings from 720p channels.

That got me to do some research. OP, what program are you using, how are you connecting from the DVR to pass to that program (I am assuming on a computer) and what is your locals market?

 

[ronjohn]

That got me to do some research. OP, what program are you using, how are you connecting from the DVR to pass to that program (I am assuming on a computer) and what is your locals market?

There are ways to get the data. I haven't done it, but I do know how. It isn't hard if you are a person who builds your own computers, but it could be difficult for someone who doesn't. There are users groups online that discuss it. It does not bypass any DRM, but I don't know if site admin would want the details to be discussed on this site.

 

[Tampa8]

Can anyone here seriously tell the difference between 720p and 1080i? I myself can't really tell the difference. I actually keep my receiver's output set to 720p because I prefer to have the progressive frame rate.

It is very difficult to tell from a resolution standpoint unless you have a very large screen. Sometimes in fast moving scenes you can see that 720P is smoother. I can see when I go to the screen to change the resolution, 1080I letters are just a little more jagged while 720P letters are just a little more rounded. (Standing right at the TV) Remember DLP, LCD, and Plasma are Progressive screens so if they receive a 1080I signal more processing takes place to deinterlace it. (Make it "progressive") and there can be a very slight degradation of the picture, though I would say normally hard to see.

 

[Tampa8]

There are ways to get the data. I haven't done it, but I do know how. It isn't hard if you are a person who builds your own computers, but it could be difficult for someone who doesn't. There are users groups online that discuss it. It does not bypass any DRM, but I don't know if site admin would want the details to be discussed on this site.

Thanks, I was not asking because I do not know how, (It did come off that way) but literally what program he is using and how he decided to get the file to the program. There are different ways and yes, sometimes you get wrong info. If every program from locals is showing as 720P, then that is what is being given to DISH, or something is wrong in the program, and it isn't DISH converting 1080I to 720P.

 

[ronjohn]

Thanks, I was not asking because I do not know how, (It did come off that way) but literally what program he is using and how he decided to get the file to the program. There are different ways and yes, sometimes you get wrong info. If every program from locals is showing as 720P, then that is what is being given to DISH, or something is wrong in the program, and it isn't DISH converting 1080I to 720P.

I didn't even consider that he could have been using a faulty program for the data. If I had a .ts file, I would open it in VLC and get the video info from VLC. I probably made a bad assumption that everyone would do it that way.

 

[Tampa8]

I would say VLC is probably the most used program.

 

[ronjohn]

Thanks, I was not asking because I do not know how, (It did come off that way) but literally what program he is using and how he decided to get the file to the program. There are different ways and yes, sometimes you get wrong info. If every program from locals is showing as 720P, then that is what is being given to DISH, or something is wrong in the program, and it isn't DISH converting 1080I to 720P.

By the way, I don't see how there cound any issue discussing .ts files and video info out of the .ts files. I was concerned about the thread getting into a discussion about methods to get the files off of the DVR. I don't know if admins would have an issue with that or not, but I suspect they would.