Scripps HGHD and FOOD HD: Bad Logos!

[Tom Bombadil]

I see that both Scripps channels, HGHD and FOOD HD, are using nasty, large, more opaque logos.

Bad, bad, bad!

Bad for those of us with RP-CRT and plasma HDTV sets. Sets that are susceptible to screen burn-in.

If one wants to use a larger logo, then make it more transparents, like the one on HDNET. Or only turn it on for a minute every 15 minutes or so.

Heaven forbid I would watch a lot of HGHD, but if I did, I'm sure I'd have a nasty, permanent burn-in from that logo after a few months.

And that Food channel logo is way out from the corner. Too far out into the picture area. Much of it is transparent enough to be less problematic for burn-in, excepting for the "food" part of it, which would definitely be a burn-in threat.

These are the worst I've seen yet from an HD channel, of those that leave up the logos for extended periods. Excepting for Dish's own demo channel with the aquariums.

And I should add that ESPN's and ESPN2's tickers are really, really bad. Even worse than the Scripps' logos.

 

[scooby2]

Come on now. You'd have to leave your TV on those channels for quite a long time to get burn in. Sure if you wanted to demo those channels 24x7 365 you would get burn in but no one watches those channels that much.

You seem to be trying to find anything/everything to bitch/moan about these days.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

This is a very legit issue for people with TVs susceptible to burn in. If you go into the archives of the long-running HDTV forums, you will find thousands of posts on this subject.

I've participated (organized) write-in campaigns to two of my local channels and was successful in getting them to tone down their logos.

These two Scripps logos are too large and too bright/intense.

And you don't have to watch these channels exclusively for hours a day over a period of a couple of years to get burn-in. Even if you mix up your viewing across multiple channels, if these get a lot of use in your home, over time those areas of the screen will get some burn-in.

Same thing can happen if you leave the Dish pause indicators up too much.

I'm definitely not going to get burn-in from either channel because I'll almost never watch either channel. I find the content to be boring. But it is still an issue that some people need to be aware of.

Scripps really shouldn't be doing this. And I don't know why anyone would defend them doing this.

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_retort_bbc_27032002_3

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/tv_logos.html

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/ISEO-rgbtcspd/learningcenter/home/TV_chart.html

http://www.plasmasaver.com/

 

[nazz]

This happened to me a couple of years ago when I was in the habit of leaving Fox News on for hours at a time. I left it on for background audio while doing things around the house and was into the habit of listening to it while laying on the couch for a nap. I'm now pissed every time I see the yellowish blob in the snow.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

It hit a LOT of people back after 9/11. People were leaving the news on for hours every day, and many of the HDTVs at that time were susceptible to burn-in. There were reports of thousands of sets that had damage during that period.

All I'm saying is that if Scripps were user-friendly, they would modify their logos so as to not damage their most loyal viewers TV sets. And if they want to leave them huge in size, at least make them more transparent to lessen the burn-in effect.

The HDNET logo is a very good example of a large'ish logo that isn't a problem.

Of course the HBO and Showtime logos are even better ... they don't display a logo!

 

[retorq]

Ya know I actually noticed this on ALOT of the SD networks that I watch, the logo seems to still be 100% visible in partial zoom mode on my Sony, it's like they know people are stretching/zooming the picture!!

And that Food channel logo is way out from the corner. Too far out into the picture area. Much of it is transparent enough to be less problematic for burn-in, excepting for the "food" part of it, which would definitely be a burn-in threat.

 

[Pepper]

Logo bugs aren't the only issue but I agree with you on the burn-in part of it.

Why is it if, for example, a Christian company decides to "edit" objectionable content out of movies and then resell them as a value-added service - with the original copy included but damaged so as unplayable (so yes it was purchased legitimately, not piracy) - the movie companies get all out of whack and sue them for "alteration of the director's original intent" BUT these same companies have no problem at all with the TV broadcaster time-compressing, reformatting aspect ratio, inserting ad popups, squishing credits, and the annoying logo in the corner?

I asked this same question in a somewhat related thread at the "other place" yesterday. http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=60728

Bottom line is the broadcasters don't care if it damages your equipment, they don't care about the artistic vision the director intended. They just want the logo on there so idiots who don't know what channel they are watching can be reminded. It's a public service.