Scott : What can we do about the 921?
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I would not put any money on it eaither, and now with Dish Buying the VOOM spectrum, MPEG4 could be put off for years, breathing new life once again into the 921. Now only if they would add NBR and OpenTV to it.
Wow. I didn't even think about that. Who needs to replace every box when they could put up another cheap, dish, upgrade some switches and be done with it for a while........
The acquisition of the V* bird will have no effect on E* MPEG4 plans. E* needs MPEG4 to be able to keep pace with D*. I find it very likely that Charlie and J. Dolan had a verbal agreement on the satellite purchase even before Charlie announced E* MPEG4 plans at CES. Even if it's never used for HD and only as a replacement for E* 3, the Rainbow 1 deal was just too good to pass up.
NightRyder
NightRyder
NightRyder said:
From what I have been able to find out those statements are 100 percent correct. I was told (by someone at DISH that I know Scott has talked to) that "DISH can't afford to pospone the rollout of MPEG4".
Scott,
I don't know if it is just wishful thinking on your part or what but I think that you are giving your readers "false hope" by saying MPEG4 will be delayed. Talk to some of your contacts at DISH and you you will "see" what is going on concerning MPEG4.
Bill R said:
bad move if the postpone it. they need to get something done on time and make sure it works.
Damn, it's a no win situation for E* here. 811/921/942 people say MPEG-4 kills their investment. You're saying they have to rush it, even though they have enough capacity now to do as much HD as VOOM did in MPEG-2. I say to take it slow, do it right, and put up some easy stuff like Universal HD now.korsjs said:
mdonnelly said:
The capacity is in the wrong place. 61.5 will never be used for anything but LIL and maybe some International. Some of the LIL might be HD but Dish will not put national HD at this location (except E. coast HD networks). Actions by D* are dictating the move to MPEG4, E* really has no choice. I am an 811 owner I say to E* "get on with it". I feel sorry for the 921 owner's on many levels but anyone foolish enough to purchase a 942 at this point in time gets what they deserve.
NightRyder
mdonnelly said:
i think they need to get some more hd up before directv offers the locals in hd. that means getting a role on mpeg4. charlie said no more hd until mpeg4.
Charlie can adjust to changing situations (you guys call it a breach of faith). Look, you can get lots of room on 110/119 by moving all the locals for D.C., Pittsburgh, Philly, Orlando, Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Tampa, Boston and NYC to the 61.5 sat. They already have split locals with 61.5/110/119. Kills 2 birds with one stone.korsjs said:
Use the slack on 110/119 to put up a couple HD channels. More sats are coming online soon at 105 and 85 for locals. Do the same for them. Leave the core SD/HD at 110/119, give everyone else a one-dish local on the wings, all at MPEG-2.
After a while, with due testing, MPEG-4 can come online with a well designed/produced receiver, just in time for a boom in HD content.
My understanding is that the LOCALS have to be on one dish. The core can be somewhere else.jsanders said:
CHICAGO IS AVAB AS A DISTANT NET!!!!!!!!! NO MOVING FROM 110/119 ANYTIME SOON!!!!!!!!!! no no no i see spanish from 61.5 for chicago are moving from to 110 or 119 or 105 or 121.....
jsanders said:
No you can't, but you can put all of the locals on 61.5. That meets the laws criteria. The law pertains to locals only. They have no problem with all of the locals on one dish and anything else you'd like to watch on a different dish.
mdonnelly said:
NY, Chicago and Atlanta are all DNS cities, yes they can change that but NY matches D* so it's not going anywhere. Also all of the cities you have mentioned are LARGE markets. Think about this for a moment, if you were E* would you require the largest number of subscribers, who have access to the most provider options, to add a second dish for locals just so a tiny fraction of your subscribers could have a couple more HD channels? I think not.
My big concern is that E* will follow D* lead and compress the crap out of any HD channels added before MPEG4. I invested a large sum of money to watch HD, NOT HD lite.
NightRyder
