Sci-Fi HD...when can we watch?

E13 is NOT being used for DISH Network, It is meant for use in China. E11 is the second of the sats that will be launched and used for DN in 2008. It is currently tentative set for June of 2008 launch by Sea Launch.

I think that confusion stems from the fact that E12 is already up there, since it's the renamed Rainbow I. Which was renamed after E11 was already in process. So the next Echostar sats will be E11 at 110W followed by E13 for China.
 
So does that mean your position is that D* will provide BBC HD before DN (If it's provided al all)?

No, I (and others) was just correcting your assertion that there is only one E* sat scheduled for launch this year.

Nice attempt at straw man though...
 
No, I (and others) was just correcting your assertion that there is only one E* sat scheduled for launch this year.

Nice attempt at straw man though...

Since you are into splitting straws it should be pointed out that Ciel 2 and AMC 14 are not E* satellites. They are being launched for, and owned by Ciel Satellite and SES-Americom respectively. Your assertion above infers more than one E* sat is scheduled for launch this year.

DN's position is a bit precareous with the HD expansion issues. With the 129 issue, it's replacement better launch successfully, be near operationally perfect, and positioned by early CY2009. For 129, it's not just an HD expansion issue.
 
Since you are into splitting straws it should be pointed out that Ciel 2 and AMC 14 are not E* satellites. They are being launched for, and owned by Ciel Satellite and SES-Americom respectively. Your assertion above infers more than one E* sat is scheduled for launch this year.

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Considering that E* is leasing all of AMC-14, and at least half of Ciel-2, I'm willing to consider them as being E* satellites.
 
All of this speculation though. We really don't know what the delay is all about...

No, we don't.

But from the fact that they had to REMOVE a couple of HD-PPV channels to put up slates for these two we can infer they didn't have room available, so if it IS contractual why the hell would they remove viable sources of revenue before they knew they could broadcast SciFi/USA-HD in their place?

Not that it makes a GREAT deal of difference (we're not getting the channels, regardless) but it is a curious situation.
 
As far as getting some channels like Sci, USA and bbc in HD if its a space issue they could elliminate some of the Vooms and use those spaces. Way back before it stopped I had voom as my provider and it at least seemed like they would add some new stuff to Monster and KungFu and I was pleased but since I switched over to Dish after voom went away sadly they don't seem to add any new movies anymore & if their not going to get some new movies then why waste bandwidth on them.
 
As far as getting some channels like Sci, USA and bbc in HD if its a space issue they could elliminate some of the Vooms and use those spaces. Way back before it stopped I had voom as my provider and it at least seemed like they would add some new stuff to Monster and KungFu and I was pleased but since I switched over to Dish after voom went away sadly they don't seem to add any new movies anymore & if their not going to get some new movies then why waste bandwidth on them.

I agree that eliminating some of the Voom channels would be a wise thing to do. If THey rolled the movie channels into one new Voom MOVIES channel they could free up some space and they could show the same movies that they show now over and over on 5 channels,only on one channels. This would free space for one transponder for something else. I frankly am starting to wonder if the Voom channels are even going to be in business the way they are going. I mean the same 2 movies over and over all day /night is a waste of bandwith and is causing people to turn off to their channels. IF they did drop the other movie channels and consolidate all the movies on one channel they could also drop the price by 5.00 which would make them closer to the cost of Directv's hd extra pack.
 
I agree that eliminating some of the Voom channels would be a wise thing to do. If THey rolled the movie channels into one new Voom MOVIES channel they could free up some space and they could show the same movies that they show now over and over on 5 channels,only on one channels. This would free space for one transponder for something else. I frankly am starting to wonder if the Voom channels are even going to be in business the way they are going. I mean the same 2 movies over and over all day /night is a waste of bandwith and is causing people to turn off to their channels. IF they did drop the other movie channels and consolidate all the movies on one channel they could also drop the price by 5.00 which would make them closer to the cost of Directv's hd extra pack.

I do like some of the movies they play on the Voom movie channels, but they are few and far between. Dish really does need some more HD movie choices. It was great back in the Voom satellite service days... we had the four premiums east AND west, plus The Movie Channel, plus some of the Encore channels all in HD.
 

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