Yeah I was misled by a sales rep. I called because I would like inhd1 & 2. I called agai to verify the channels and was told that they don't have Cinemax, but the others are definately HD. I just received a flyer on my door today that shows CBS, WB, PBS, FOX, NBC and ABC in HD, not DT.Carter said:
**Rumor:** Dish Network and Voom combined?
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I don't see this garnering negative antitrust attention as D* is a solid #1 and is getting stronger by the day. They actually will encourage the deal to make sure E* stays a healthy alternative to D*.
This probably belongs in the stock forum. I would move it if I could.
Buyt thuis rumor has been around since the merger failed. It is logical. But I dont see us being able to confiorm or deny it.
Buyt thuis rumor has been around since the merger failed. It is logical. But I dont see us being able to confiorm or deny it.
I really don't care what happens, as long as we continue to gain HD service at reasonable prices. Although it is kind of cool to have the latest greatest satellite service, I wouldn't mind subscribing to a different one if it had the HD content.
--Dan
--Dan
BobMurdoch said:
But it's not like D* has a BIG lead on E*, what is it a few million? And when you take into account what the read is on Charlie and Capitol Hill in http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=31302 maybe it wouldn't the the slam dunk that some think it would be.
Read the following posted by 1080i about Dishnetwork/VOOM....
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=31749
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=31749
Has anyone found out if this is even true? Is there any proof? I called VOOM and asked and the guy knew nothing of it but said his manager wanted to know where I heard the news so I gave him this site.
AT this point it is only speculation. BTW, I've heard rumors of other potential VOOM buyers including Bill Gates (Microsoft), Mark Cuban and even Donald TrumpFreddyvsJasonvsAsh said:
I am convinced I know what will be happening- to a point. Think about it. Cablevision got into this thing to make money and the pundits attacked from day one saying it was a bad idea. This means when they spin it off it will probably be a penny stock and not worth much. Subscribers haven't poured out of the woodwork yelling "I want my HD" so that has been VERY disappointing as well. So, in comes D* telling everyone "you don't need Voom, we'll have 500 HD channels soon". All of this together means the spun off company is destined to fail since it will be effectively worthless in the market.
However, E* has to have two things to combat D*: HD programming and more transponders. Voom has both (not to mention it makes Charlie not look as foolish for making the "no compelling content" remark). So here is what I think seems the most feasible: E* buys Voom. And, it has to be before the spinoff so they don't have to ask for approval. Voom's HD becomes part of E*'s HD offereings and that's it- no stand alone Voom. That's the likely scenario.
I'll also bet E* would love toget this InHD issue done and force InHD to sell programming to Voom- they could then "merge" Voom with E* and get InHD for E* as well.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. But, I still love my Voom.
However, E* has to have two things to combat D*: HD programming and more transponders. Voom has both (not to mention it makes Charlie not look as foolish for making the "no compelling content" remark). So here is what I think seems the most feasible: E* buys Voom. And, it has to be before the spinoff so they don't have to ask for approval. Voom's HD becomes part of E*'s HD offereings and that's it- no stand alone Voom. That's the likely scenario.
I'll also bet E* would love toget this InHD issue done and force InHD to sell programming to Voom- they could then "merge" Voom with E* and get InHD for E* as well.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. But, I still love my Voom.
Voom service rep said Nonsense Dish is buying voom
I called the voom service rep and he talked to his manager and said they were all laughing at the rumour. It is not true Dish is not buying out voom. Voom is going it alone, he said, and they are agresssively marketing for Christmas. Dvr out by mid December is what they speculate.
I called the voom service rep and he talked to his manager and said they were all laughing at the rumour. It is not true Dish is not buying out voom. Voom is going it alone, he said, and they are agresssively marketing for Christmas. Dvr out by mid December is what they speculate.
Ahhh one of those CSR managers that has is hand on the pulse of the company. O SURE, he knows, listen to him. He will find out when we do, but for him it will probably be a pink slip. LMAOcalikarim said:
Actually, this confirms the buyout. why? because, based on past experience, usually the opposite of what a CSR says come to be truth :hahacalikarim said:
Personally, I think many of us are speculating simply because VOOM has been in a lengthy quite period, for obvious Spin-Off reasons, while so many things are pending implementation...both this quarter and next.
1. DVR was said to be available in late summer...then 3rd Quarter...now we are 1/3rd into the 4th Quarter and still no word regarding its status or even a status regarding its future status.
2. Documents filed with the SEC, and briefed to the Board of Directors, led us to believe that new customers, at a minimum, would be receiving the "Bigger Dish" starting in the 4th Quarter in order to receive programming on SES Americom (lease started on 1 Oct).
3. Likewise, VOOM is now 25 days into its lease with SES Americom and still no indication as to what they are going to do with the new transponders and how it will improve our overall VOOM experience. The SEC Form 10 filing states they are going live with the new SES transponders in January. Of course, we customers need a Bigger Dish in order to take advantage of any such programming on the new Sat.
4. Once again the SEC Form 10, VOOM states it anticipates migrating SD channels to MPEG-4 during the 1st Quarter 2005...thus, doubling their SD capacity; HD channels are to be migrated during 4th Quarter 2005.
Since VOOM plans to increase the price of their basic service by $10 starting in January, I would assume we would have a working DVR and additional SD and HD channels at that time.
Have Rainbow 1's transponders been fully loaded? Can they support any more SD/HD channels without impacting PQ?
1. DVR was said to be available in late summer...then 3rd Quarter...now we are 1/3rd into the 4th Quarter and still no word regarding its status or even a status regarding its future status.
2. Documents filed with the SEC, and briefed to the Board of Directors, led us to believe that new customers, at a minimum, would be receiving the "Bigger Dish" starting in the 4th Quarter in order to receive programming on SES Americom (lease started on 1 Oct).
3. Likewise, VOOM is now 25 days into its lease with SES Americom and still no indication as to what they are going to do with the new transponders and how it will improve our overall VOOM experience. The SEC Form 10 filing states they are going live with the new SES transponders in January. Of course, we customers need a Bigger Dish in order to take advantage of any such programming on the new Sat.
4. Once again the SEC Form 10, VOOM states it anticipates migrating SD channels to MPEG-4 during the 1st Quarter 2005...thus, doubling their SD capacity; HD channels are to be migrated during 4th Quarter 2005.
Since VOOM plans to increase the price of their basic service by $10 starting in January, I would assume we would have a working DVR and additional SD and HD channels at that time.
Have Rainbow 1's transponders been fully loaded? Can they support any more SD/HD channels without impacting PQ?
riffjim4069 said:
I think this comment says it all.....who thinks VOOM can survive if they do nothing by the increase? Not me. Its going on November and no DVR and no new programming ....and if Jan rolls around with the same programming and still no DVR , how will they keep their current customer base....and how will they attract new customers?
vinnyv07 said:
I agree. My VaVaVoom is locked at $79.50 until Jan 1, '05. If they raise the fee by $10 per month I am back with Dish and a 921 PVR. Less HD but at least you know what you are getting now and in the future. Charlie is pretty straight forward with his plans and time tables when the Chats air. Voom is quite clandestine when it comes to information. Only the rumor mill. No facts to back anything up until the sh*t hits the fan.
The lease of TP's on AMC6 went nowhere. I checked Lingsat and the MPG/DVB websites and there is no mention of any new HD activity by Voom or Rainbow. If they are leasing the TP's then I would expect at least a test card going to get the data streams dialed in. Nothing, nota, zilch activity in this area. I am under the assumption Voom is in it's death throws and the bailing is not keeping up with the sinking ship. Expect a letter from Dish welcoming aboard Dish in Jan due to the buyout that is inevitable to salvage any of the investor money Voom has spent.
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