Remote Question?

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Diamond Jim

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Does anyone have any ideas as to why I can stand directly in front of and about a foot or so way from the receiver and the remote does not work, but I can go into anouther rood and point it in the direction of the remote extinisons and ith works perfect?
 
I assume this is a UHF remote, since it works from another room...

Probably there is something interfering with the signal from it when you are too close, perhaps another piece of equipment in your setup?

If it is an IR remote, I've found that some work better when farther away from the equipment. It probably has to do with the dispersion of the IR beam when the remote is more distant...
 
Does the receiver end of the remote extension have an emitter that is placed in front of the receiver? If so, the emitter could be blocking the reception of the IR signal from the remote.

We were providing Factory Warranty for Coolsat when the 5000 had the receptor issues. The receptor could be physically placed incorrectly in the front panel PCB or the receptor may have strips across the lens that could be removed to provide a wider pick-up range. You may need to replace the receptor with a generic Radio Shack model. Sometimes we have found models with too dark of faceplate tint (one release of Lifetime Ultra) some people drilled a small hole in the cover and placed the receptor in the faceplate instead of behind.
 
A couple other thoughts....
Some receivers have a very narrow angle that the IR receptor "sees". Like with a couple of my receivers, if I have the remote at a 45 deg angle, it doesn't work. When you're only 2 feet away, it makes it possible that you could be off by a considerable angle if you don't know exactly where the IR receptor is behind the plastic.
Also, is it possible that the IR extender is also picking up and repeating the signal when you're 2' away, so that the receiver is getting signal from 2 different places, possibly interferring? I have had problems with remote extenders at times, as they pick up interferrence from all sorts of things. I've used 2 or 3 different kinds, but usually use those RS/X-10 Powermid things. They have a little light that blinks when it's repeating, and often I'll see that light blinking when I'm not using any remote. Sometimes I've traced it to computer displays, even computer mouses (wired type, not the rf type). One time I found that if I moved my mouse over one specific window on my desktop, that it would activate the remote extender. Other times that thing has been blinking wildly, and I haven't been able to figure out what was causing it. Ie I've blocked the view from different directions, and couldn't figure out where the signal was coming from.
It's also possible that the signal from 2' away is just too strong. Some IR receptors can be overwhelmed by too much light from the remote. I have a learning remote that won't work if the remote it's learning from is too close. Also, the opposite is possible. It the remote is too weak, it's possible that the receiver has problems with the signal, but the receptor in the extender might be more sensitive. I have some remotes that work better through an extender, and I've decided that this is the reason. Also remotes often put out a weak signal if the batteries are low, and if you use rechargeable batteries, the voltage will ALWAYS be low (1.2 vs 1.5).
One interesting thing about remotes is that often they are so strong that the signals will go through things that you assume will block them. I had one remote that I could get to work even though holding my hand over the end of the remote. It would also work from behind the cloth of a shirt. Another time, I tried blocking a receiver by putting black construction paper over the front of the receiver to block the signal. Signal went right through 1 layer, 2 layers, 3 layers of construction paper. It wasn't until I put like 4 or 5 layers did it finally block the signal. Anyway, I think there can be great differences in the strength of different remotes and the sensitivity of the receptor in the receiver.

Just a few other possible parameters.
 
Replace the batteries. ;-)

On the more serious side, check if holding the remote right in front of the IR receiver works. It could be the receiver's sensitivity is off but the IR extender / repeater is boosting the signal enough that it works through the repeater.
 
Replace the batteries. ;-)
On the more serious side, check if holding the remote right in front of the IR receiver works. It could be the receiver's sensitivity is off but the IR extender / repeater is boosting the signal enough that it works through the repeater.


I did replace the batteries and it seemed to help. Your reasoning makes sense. I was thinking low batteries didn't have enough power, but going through the extenions would boost it a bit.
 
Does the receiver end of the remote extension have an emitter that is placed in front of the receiver? If so, the emitter could be blocking the reception of the IR signal from the remote.

You may need to replace the receptor with a generic Radio Shack model.

No, I am not using the emitter, they seem to work better with out it. I have the receiver extension placed 10 to 12 inches in front of the Quali and about 4 inches below it....so no, there is nothing blocking it's front view.

It is a Radio Shack model.
 
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