Well, I researched and found the DB8, so far pretty good. I wasn't able to get it as high as I wanted to though. I am now able to pick the local fox station that is about 40 miles away, only hitting 32-40 on the scale, tv locks in at 30. They are only putting out about 33kw. I am now having some trouble with my PBS station. They are only about 20 miles and I think that my cheapy RS 75xr is affecting that, I left it up for a local analog, but I didn't remove the UHF reflectors, so I am thinking that I will do that soon.