Problems with 129?

[long_time_DNC]

Have you tried a matrix reset (disconnect input to your receiver, do a check switch, reconnect the input from your dishes to your receiver and do a check switch again)?

It might fix (or help fix) that issue. I'm way further north than you are and don't get drop-outs like on the channels on tp 27.

 

[downriver]

Well....I did disconnect the cable from that little splitter doodad and ran a checkswitch but ya know it didn't go through all that lengthy searching like it usually does when you don't have it hooked in, just did the usual 5 checks and said no signal. Then I reconnected and ran it and it ran the 5 checks and booted on up. I'll disconnect it at the grounding block and try again. But screw it not today. This weekend is now, like 129/27, toast.

 

[long_time_DNC]

Weird that it didn't do the long n of 38 search on the first. I disconnected the combiner from my 622 when I did my reset and it ran correctly (n of 38 first check switch, reconnect, do again, n of 5 on the second run). Bummer about your weekend...

 

[gadgtfreek]

Ive got 75-80 on tp27.

 

[long_time_DNC]

I just checked and have 75 on tp27 as well. I've been watching a movie for the last hour and only had one brief drop-out...lasted about 30 seconds.

 

[gadgtfreek]

Watched mine some more, have seen a fluctuations from 72-80, which is about normal for what ive seen on other tp's with 129. Its just wobbling I guess, hopefully not out of the sky.

 

[kstuart]

If you look at levi's post in this thread, Tp 27 goes lower in strength than any other TP, so when 129 sat dips in strength, 27 may seem to go "out", but the signal strength scale is not linear (actually Dish is implementing a new scale, but has not upgraded all models of receiver yet with it).

On the other hand, if 27 goes to zero, and no other TP goes very low, then there may be some other problem.

I assume that the 24 foot height is needed to miss trees/houses ?

 

[levibluewa]

Readings from tonight 535-640 PM-ish

If there are any techies ... at least on TPs 1, 18 and 27 the signal creeps up and falls...61-62-63-64 then jumps to 76 and in turn falls 79-78-77-76-64. Any theories on the gap. I've noticed it in the last month especially.

TP 537p ---- 555p ----- 605p ----- 621p ----- 636pm

01 63 -------- 79 -------- 78 -------- 79 -------- 62
02 76 -------- 77 -------- 59 -------- 61 -------- 55
04 84 -------- 89 -------- 86 -------- 88 -------- 84
05 78 -------- 81 -------- 80 -------- 82 -------- 77
06 60 -------- 62 -------- 53 -------- 60 -------- 53
07 80 -------- 78 -------- 60 -------- 63 -------- 59
08 79 -------- 82 -------- 80 -------- 83 -------- 79
09 84 -------- 87 -------- 84 -------- 88 -------- 84
10 86 -------- 87 -------- 78 -------- 85 -------- 79
11 64 -------- 76 -------- 55 -------- 61 -------- 58
12 85 -------- 88 -------- 85 -------- 89 -------- 85
13 85 -------- 91 -------- 85 -------- 90 -------- 87
16 77 -------- 81 -------- 77 -------- 82 -------- 77
17 79 -------- 85 -------- 80 -------- 86 -------- 80
18 60 -------- 62 -------- 53 -------- 59 -------- 54
21 77 -------- 83 -------- 80 -------- 82 -------- 78
22 63 -------- 77 -------- 58 -------- 62 -------- 57
27 76 -------- 80 -------- 55 -------- 47 -------- 57
30 84 -------- 87 -------- 76 -------- 62 -------- 79
31 94 -------- 98 -------- 85 -------- 83 -------- 88
32 71 -------- 80 -------- 72 -------- 72 -------- 75

 

[levibluewa]

Sorry....

Clear skies; 211 receiver; 24" dish (500); low-noise LNB.

 

[downriver]

Does Echostar 5 at 129 occupy the same orbit as Telstar 7?? Or is Telstar 7 also toast??

 

[digiblur]

Does Echostar 5 at 129 occupy the same orbit as Telstar 7?? Or is Telstar 7 also toast??

Galaxy 27? Yes, it as also located at 129W. There's lots of room up there.

 

[kstuart]

Clear skies; 211 receiver; 24" dish (500); low-noise LNB.

A Dish 500 is not a 24-inch dish.

A regular Winegard Dish Network 24-inch dish gets more signal strength than a Dish 500.

PS If you are wondering the reason for the fluctuations in EchoStar 5's signal, it is simply that the gyros have failed, and thrusters are being used to reposition the satellite.

 

[downriver]

I know this is a long shot, but the sun is almost directly overhead this time of year. My two dishes are within two ft or less of the peak of a steel roof. Not the bright shiny kind but a light gray. could sun reflecting off that steel roof create some type of "noise" that would interfere with a weak signal???

This is grasping out there a bit.

 

[levibluewa]

Thanks KStuart...

I stand corrected...a 24" dish then period

 

[T.A.C]

I am curious, is this 'Kansas City - FOX bleeding' still an ongoing issue for most, or does it seem that this was an isolated incident that happened over the course of a week or weekend?

I know this is a long shot, but the sun is almost directly overhead this time of year. My two dishes are within two ft or less of the peak of a steel roof. Not the bright shiny kind but a light gray. could sun reflecting off that steel roof create some type of "noise" that would interfere with a weak signal???

This is grasping out there a bit.

Granted, you could be seeing some noise by having your dish installed on that metal roof. However, avoidance is the best method to deal with
terrestrial interference. Positioning the dish using natural shields to block incoming terrestrial interference is an excellent method of combating terrestrial interference. In general, the higher you place a dish the more chance there will be of encountering noise. The more you shield a dish, i.e. install next to structures, the greater the chance you will be protected from noise. The exception to this being metal structures that reflect heat and structures that absorb heat then radiate it out at night.

The fact that more then just a few people are reporting seeing this 'bleeding' issue is rather interesting, if you ask me. If it was just you seeing this then I could see where you could easily point the finger at that metal roof. Maybe some folks can confirm if they are still seeing KC - FOX WDAF bleeding into Cinemax HD or the Universal HD channel 9427.

 

[long_time_DNC]

I DVR'd a movie from Cinemax HD a few days ago and while watching it yesterday, there were no drop-outs until the end titles, where there was a brief outage in the recording and what bled through? WDAF FOX 4...so while it's still happening, it's brief, and somewhat odd/interesting. Makes me wonder how that happens? WDAF isn't on the same frequency on E5, is it?

 

[levibluewa]

Modified Signal Meter Readings...8:06AM

Software Ver. L346 RAGD-N (211 receiver); 24" dish; low-noise LNB

TP

01 -- 43
02 -- 43
04 -- 53
05 -- 52
06 -- 37
07 -- 43
08 -- 50
09 -- 52
10 -- 51
11 -- 39
12 -- 53
13 -- 52
16 -- 52
17 -- 54
18 -- 37
21 -- 50
22 -- 39
23 -- 45
27 -- 41
30 -- 52
31 -- 59
32 -- 46

 

[RandallA]

Software Ver. L346 RAGD-N (211 receiver); 24" dish; low-noise LNB

TP

01 -- 43
02 -- 43
04 -- 53
05 -- 52
06 -- 37
07 -- 43
08 -- 50
09 -- 52
10 -- 51
11 -- 39
12 -- 53
13 -- 52
16 -- 52
17 -- 54
18 -- 37
21 -- 50
22 -- 39
23 -- 45
27 -- 41
30 -- 52
31 -- 59
32 -- 46

Got L3.46 on my 211 and only checked a couple of TPs, TP11 at 29 and TP31 at 50. These new SS numbers look very scary but as long as the receiver doesn't lose signal.

 

[gadgtfreek]

Got L3.46 on my 211 and only checked a couple of TPs, TP11 at 29 and TP31 at 50. These new SS numbers look very scary but as long as the receiver doesn't lose signal.

Ouch, I agree.

 

[RandallA]

Ouch, I agree.

They used to be TP11 at 60 and TP31 at 90.