Pricing Update from Dish Network

[Kheldar]

My whole problem with this is not the reality of it, it's dish's trying to pretend like they are not screwing their existing customers over with some fairly significant cost increases. Until they fess up, i've put them "On Notice" and they are pretty damn close to my "Dead to me" list. If IPTV matures too much in the next year, I'll dump dish fast.

Someone watches a bit too much Colbert Report.

 

[Bob Haller]

I MADE SKY REPORTS

E hasnt responded......

MediaBiz

 

[Bob Haller]

For 2 election cycles I have volunteered for congressman jason altmire.

Tomorrow I am going to stop by his local office.

all contracts should be federally mandated to prevent large price gouges.

Since rip offs like E are still selling the old pricing to new subs even though the new prices have been officially released to dealers.

E should at least INFORM anyone signing a contract for new service, since it will be in their first bill.

It doesnt effect me BUT consumer need protection from greedy companies like E.

and those like verizon FIOS who enforce the contract for a service that doesnt work reliably This happened to me for my local phone

 

[kb2vgp]

Well you can have it both ways -- just put some bogus phone prefix in (like a #) so that it cannot really make the call.

I never thought of that, that makes great sense, thanks! I can just switch to rotary dialing since I have VoIP and it only works as touch tone. I don't need my receiver calling into dish after Feb. 1st anyway.

 

[Bob Haller]

Well heres a new insider leak.

Es purpose was to simplify prices to minimize people complaing.

Phone line compliance is about 5% so nearly all already pay the 5 buck fee.

E gets too many calls about charges, so this way there will only be.

Programing cost

DVR fee

receiver fee

Very few have multiple DVRs. We are select subscribers.

E knows this will cost them subs but will try to give credits to make it less costly.

Elminating the DVR advantage plan is a mistake.

 

[Dah-Henny]

Geez, 5% is really hard to believe. :yikes

 

[Bob Haller]

5% is what my contact reports.

apparently even if installers connect phone lines subs unplug later.

If the fee was really to stop stacking its a apparent failure.

I do knowe my best friend unplugged his receivers fearing it could spy or some such. I explained what it was for but his wife still didnt believe it

 

[Dah-Henny]

That's funny...I used to have a 10 ft BUD, and somebody at church warned me that the government was likely spying on me thru the dish. People can be idiots.

 

[Bob Haller]

That's funny...I used to have a 10 ft BUD, and somebody at church warned me that the government was likely spying on me thru the dish. People can be idiots.

Yeah some potential subs told me the same thing.

Which is partially true E collects viewing habit info. Thats one reason for call inns

 

[lawman1627]

Very few have multiple DVRs. We are select subscribers.

E knows this will cost them subs but will try to give credits to make it less costly.

In all the threads I must have missed the part about possible credits for higher end subs, whats that all about?

 

[Bob Haller]

In all the threads I must have missed the part about possible credits for higher end subs, whats that all about?

Well the ORIGINAL leak had a 6 buck a month credit for 6 months max. Tonight GOOD source said again 6 month credit but no amount

They recommend waiting till feb 1st before cancelling to see what the offer is.

I will visit FIOS tomorrow. Its contract free for me I have nothing to lose

 

[DefDude]

I just called dish and of course when prompted I kept saying cancel and got to a retention csr pretty quick. I was told that starting in feb they are going to have a promo that will replace some receiver's for free. In my case I would be able to replace my 522 that I use in single mode and my 322 in dual mode with 3 211's or 3 211k's for free,of course with a 24 month commitment. This would result in my bill only going up $5 and having 3 HD boxes to go with my other 3 HD TV's with the ability to be dvr's. Since I already have paid the $40 fee that would be not so bad. I would call this a carrot that may or may not be true, we'll see The downside is that I would be back under contract after being contract free for over 5 years. If this turns out to be true what is the difference between a 211 and a 211k? Of course I will still bitch in hopes of getting a monthly credit

 

[DefDude]

One other thing I was able to tell from my call is that, after working the csr for awhile, they will be trying to overcome the onslaught of complaints by touting their superior dvr's. He kept going back to the fact that they have such great products each time I pointed out that I would have a large increase in my bill. We only have ourselves to blame because of all the positive comments about most of their VIP's and the great features, SH#T I did it again. Ummh, except for the constant buggy updated software.

 

[Roxor]

Effective February 1, 2010
Please note the following programming and monthly rate changes for
AT&T | DISH Network Service:

America's "Everything" PAK repriced to $99.99* (+$2.01); America's
"Everything" PAK customers without locals availability will be moved to
America's Top 250 & 4-pay premium packages priced at $97.99; the DVR
service fee ($6) will no longer be waived for America's "Everything"
PAK customers. TurboHD Bronze with locals renamed to DISH America and
repriced to $29.99 (-$5); TurboHD Silver with locals renamed DISH
America Silver and repriced to $49.99 (-$5); TurboHD Gold with locals
renamed DISH America Gold and repriced to $49.99 (-$5). Customers with
one or more DVR receivers will be billed a single $6/month fee instead
of a per receiver fee. Customers who currently subscribe to a "w/DVR"
package will no longer see a bundled price point; bill will reflect
package price and $6/mo DVR fee as explained above. The following
packages will all increase by $1 as a result of this change: Classic
Bronze 100- $39.99, Classic Bronze 100 Plus- $44.99, Classic Silver
200- $52.99, Classic Gold 250- $62.99, DishLATINO Plus- $34.99,
DishLATINO Max w/DVR- $58.99. The following packages are also affected
by this change: DishLatino Classico- $35.99 (+$.02), DishLATINO DOS
w/DVR- $45.99 (-$2). Existing non-DVR package customers with more than
one dual tuner receiver not connected to a phone line or broadband
connection will pay $5/month for each dual tuner receiver after the
first. The following price changes will also apply: DishLATINO DOS-
$39.99* (-$3), Arabic Music Pak- $9.99 (+$3), Filipino Viva Pinov-
$14.99 (+$3), French RFI- $1.99 (+$.99), Greek Value Pack- $34.99
(+$2), Greek Antenna Package- $24.99 (+$2), Polish TV Silesia Plus
RADIO Silesia- $4.99 (-$1), Portuguese RTPI- $4.99 (+$.99), Taiwan Sky
Link- $4.99 (-$1), Hindi B4U- $4.99 (+$2), Urdu QTV- $9.99 (+$2), Greek
Elite Pack- $34.99 (+$2), Russian Mega Pack- $34.99 (+$2), Pak Mega
Pack- $44.99 (+$5), Tamil Mega Pack- $29.99 (+$5). Additional receiver
fees will change as follows: Solo- $7 (+$2), Solo DVR - $10 (+$5), HD
solo DVR- $10 (+$3), Duo- $14 (+$9), HD Duo- $14(+$6), DuoDVR- $17
(+$12), HD DuoDVR- $17 (+$10). Other name changes: Classic Bronze
renamed America's Top 120; Classic Bronze 100 Plus renamed America's
Top 120 Plus; Classic Silver 200 renamed America's Top 200; Classic
Gold 250 renamed America's Top 250.

*Prices do not include locals; $6/mo more with locals

 

[mrschwarz]

Quality is inversely proportional to price. For $5, it's a great DVR. For $17 (plus the DVR fee), it's not as great. I have a 722 and a 522 (which I got when I signed up back when it was brand new) and AEP. The only reason I have AEP is that it was cheaper than the package I had before, after adding the 2 DVR fees. After getting an HDTV and a 722, I didn't really need the 522, but I already had it and it didn't cost any more than a single receiver at the time.

Now that Dish has 'simplified' my prices, I can make them more 'complex' again by dropping AEP since it no longer saves me any money. Also, with the new 'simplified' cost of the 522, I'll return that and replace it with a 211k (I already paid the $39 for another 211k I have in my motor home). Dropping from AEP will save me the $6.00 DVR fee and replacing the 522 will return the 2nd receiver fee to $7. That should get my subscription cost to be about the same as it is now.

Typically, companies use rates to drive you to what they want you to buy. With these new 'simple' rates, Dish must feel like their support costs are rising too high and they want to encourage people to eliminate additional receivers. They got my attention!

By the way, based on my reading of Dish's announcements, 'simplify' must be marketing speak for 'substantial price increase'. From that I inferred that 'complex' must mean 'no substantial price increase'. I have always been a fan of 'complex'.

 

[satjay]

I am sure all the pricing will be explained and the advantages will be highlighted at the next Charlie Chat

 

[Bob Haller]

I am sure all the pricing will be explained and the advantages will be highlighted at the next Charlie Chat

I bet all phone in calls will be pre recorded didnt somone say the dealer chats were moving that way?

 

[davepo]

I know there was a thread a while back on bills, but my hd bill will be going down. I currently get Top 250, HBO and Showtime. I also get billed $10 for HD twice, once for gold and once for platinum. Am I getting overcharged ?

 

[DishDave]

If you sub to the Dish welcome pack for $9.99 and an Adult ch. And if you want to change the adult ch anytime after Feb 1 will i loose the welcome pack? Or Will i loose it only when i change a core package ?

 

[Bob Haller]

I know there was a thread a while back on bills, but my hd bill will be going down. I currently get Top 250, HBO and Showtime. I also get billed $10 for HD twice, once for gold and once for platinum. Am I getting overcharged ?

Sure sounds like it with many looking at their bills mistakes will be found. and shopping around for better deals too.

E may not be happy since everyone is offering teaser rates for 2 year contracts.

So long time sub gets new simplified bill that went up. Many may not call E but just sign a contract at a teaser rate with someone else, then call to cancel once the new provider is in place.

E has no recovery of sub they are a certain churn since they signed a contract with someone else.

Frankly I dont like contracts, teaser rates, extraoridnary fees, buggy software and 20% cost increases. guess I dont like much