Potential New Roof and moving my Dish and Antenna

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I am potentially getting a new roof and I will need to have my Dish Network dish taken down along with my Televes Antenna that Dish set up for me as well. If I get the protection plan and I am assuming pay $50 or so for a special work order do you think the Dish Tech would set up the Dish on the ground pole mounted? I would prefer not to have the dish up on the roof anymore if its new. I also would like to see if they could move the Televes Antenna to my attic. What are the chances of this happening if I also tip?
 
Why difference because of age? Dish will not increase rate of aging. It only needs to be properly installed & sealed, as would with an old roof. Moving offair to attic will attenuate signals. Moving dish to ground usually creates add'l damage risk.
I was not thinking in terms of the age of the dish, but just not sure if I wanted a bunch of new holes in a new roof. What are the risks on the ground?
 
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I was not thinking in terms of the age of the dish, but just not sure if I wanted a bunch of new holes in a new roof. What are the risks on the ground?
I was referring to age of roof. A proper installation will last the life of the re-roof without allowing water damage. If dropping satellite in future the mounting points can be left in place without need to re-seal. On ground there is usually additional hazard with buried coax cabling and from physical contact with dish. I find snow outage to be an extremely rare occurrance; you can gauge that for self based on whether you've had any snowouts.
 
I was referring to age of roof. A proper installation will last the life of the re-roof without allowing water damage. If dropping satellite in future the mounting points can be left in place without need to re-seal. On ground there is usually additional hazard with buried coax cabling and from physical contact with dish. I find snow outage to be an extremely rare occurrance; you can gauge that for self based on whether you've had any snowouts.
Thanks for responding. I wasn't aware they had to bury the coax. Where I was thinking it could go would be not too far away from where the coax goes into the house now and they could just run the coax along the house siding?
 
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Thanks for responding. I wasn't aware they had to bury the coax. Where I was thinking it could go would be not too far away from where the coax goes into the house now and they could just run the coax along the house siding?
In my case, the coax is buried about a foot & a half to the house wall, then up the wall and along the siding. Its out of the way, no foot traffic nearby.
 
Thanks for responding. I wasn't aware they had to bury the coax. Where I was thinking it could go would be not too far away from where the coax goes into the house now and they could just run the coax along the house siding?
Sometimes a ground dish can go close to house if trees not in way. Other times you need to get beyond trees and it becomes a long buried run. I saw a lot of outfits put dish on pole right at the house, which made little sense to me. Most of my mounting was actually directly to house structure at a height accessible without ladder, as preferable to going to roof, but sometimes trees or other factors dictated the roof. But you have to be prepared for doing that work- mounting to varying surfaces such as siding, masonry or stucco, having notched mounting pads, using long/thin deck screws into studs rather than thick lag bolts. Much less of a sealing issue than on-roof. With a pole 1 or 2' from house, you still have some of that instability vulnerability, coax into ground for at least a short ways and usually have to prepare concrete. I suspect install outfits just used that as a basic go-to for less-skilled installers- knowledgeable judgment/experience has to go into on-house mounting. Conversely, other outfits would automatically go to the roof even when a side-structural siting was doable. Again they had probably just told installers to put on roof as a "pat answer" so that there wouldn't be need for using finer judgment.

Then yes, I would run the coax along/under siding to entry point, to avoid ground. But you're still going to have the offair issue where roof is unquestionably best, unless doing a tower or something.
 
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I am potentially getting a new roof and I will need to have my Dish Network dish taken down along with my Televes Antenna that Dish set up for me as well. If I get the protection plan and I am assuming pay $50 or so for a special work order do you think the Dish Tech would set up the Dish on the ground pole mounted? I would prefer not to have the dish up on the roof anymore if its new. I also would like to see if they could move the Televes Antenna to my attic. What are the chances of this happening if I also tip?
They can move the Dish to wherever you want it, as long as it's got clear line of sight and a clear path for the cable. I would call it in as a relocate Dish Work Order.
As for the Antenna, that will probably incur an extra charge and will need a clear wallfish to the Hopper
 
Sometimes a ground dish can go close to house if trees not in way. Other times you need to get beyond trees and it becomes a long buried run. I saw a lot of outfits put dish on pole right at the house, which made little sense to me. Most of my mounting was actually directly to house structure at a height accessible without ladder, as preferable to going to roof, but sometimes trees or other factors dictated the roof. But you have to be prepared for doing that work- mounting to varying surfaces such as siding, masonry or stucco, having notched mounting pads, using long/thin deck screws into studs rather than thick lag bolts. Much less of a sealing issue than on-roof. With a pole 1 or 2' from house, you still have some of that instability vulnerability, coax into ground for at least a short ways and usually have to prepare concrete. I suspect install outfits just used that as a basic go-to for less-skilled installers- knowledgeable judgment/experience has to go into on-house mounting. Conversely, other outfits would automatically go to the roof even when a side-structural siting was doable. Again they had probably just told installers to put on roof as a "pat answer" so that there wouldn't be need for using finer judgment.

Then yes, I would run the coax along/under siding to entry point, to avoid ground. But you're still going to have the offair issue where roof is unquestionably best, unless doing a tower or something.
Well one limit is not being authorized to mount to Vinyl siding
 
Well one limit is not being authorized to mount to Vinyl siding
That's what I'm saying, they're under artificial restrictions. As neither equipped with notched mounting pad, etc. nor training/experience, viable/preferable mounting options are kept off table. This was where local independent dealers could bettor tailor the servicing experience to the customer.
 
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They can move the Dish to wherever you want it, as long as it's got clear line of sight and a clear path for the cable. I would call it in as a relocate Dish Work Order.
As for the Antenna, that will probably incur an extra charge and will need a clear wallfish to the Hopper
Thanks HipKat. I was hoping responded.
 
My vinyl install.
 

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Can't speak to the cost, but, having had both roof mount and now pole mount, I'd take a pole mount anytime. Easy to clean off snow (if needed) and easy to work on.
 
didnt see it posted and dont have to here but i believe you all have to cal something like dig safe or sorts to make sure where you want the pole and cable buried can be done in that location before dish will entertain the idea of a pole

just a thought
 
didnt see it posted and dont have to here but i believe you all have to cal something like dig safe or sorts to make sure where you want the pole and cable buried can be done in that location before dish will entertain the idea of a pole

just a thought
That is pretty subjective actually. In-house technicians will in probably all cases not put a pole in the ground without calling dick safe first. Contractors in many cases, same thing however, the policy is to put the Dish on a temporary mount at the point where the pole will go, call, dig safe or Julie, depending on which state you’re in, and then return within a week to permanently install the pole. In some cases, Some subcontractors will use their judgment in cases. It’s obvious that nothing is buried and just install the pole, anyway.
 
That is pretty subjective actually. In-house technicians will in probably all cases not put a pole in the ground without calling dick safe first. Contractors in many cases, same thing however, the policy is to put the Dish on a temporary mount at the point where the pole will go, call, dig safe or Julie, depending on which state you’re in, and then return within a week to permanently install the pole. In some cases, Some subcontractors will use their judgment in cases. It’s obvious that nothing is buried and just install the pole, anyway.


Being in maintenance management and following many safety sites, I cannot count the number of times I see stories where, after the fact, the "obvious" is not so "obvious" !

Do the one call. No matter what. If you make the call and there is a mistake, it is on the one-call system. If you do not and something is missed, it can and likely will cost you indivually a fotune
 
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