Those MOCA signals going out the lnb would allow the mother ship to receive Dish programing free of charge. Can't have that!!
I was wandering the same, why do you need solo hub for stand alone HopperDuo or Hopper3?
You don’t
I have never used a Hub with my Hopper Duo, and it works perfectly fine that way.
Without the Hub, you see only 3 tuners.
I would think that being outside in the hot sunshine (and other weather conditions) for years would do more damage. On the other hand, I suppose there could be some components in the newer LNBs that might not be able to handle the MoCA signals very well. In my case, I have LNBs that are not typically used for new installs (1000.4 EA, and the original Dish 1000+ hooked up through a DPP44 switch) so that may be why Dish approved not using a Hub for my Hopper Duo.I wonder if the MoCA signals damage the LNB over time.
Sorry but this is wrong. I ran my H3 without a hub and saw all tuners. Please do your research before posting incorrect information
Moot point. He switched to a Wally, and he is no longer even using the same dish he used with the Hopper 3.That setup eventually has problems. This i know from experience, having tried multiple setups.
Are you using Joeys on that too ?
The old "Nodes" were required to feed the three tuners on the older Hopper models because they combined the signals from two DPP lines which can feed only two tuners each. However the Hybrid Hub is a much simpler device, it's basically just a diplexer. The Hub doesn't do anything to feed the tuners on the Hopper 3 or any other Hopper model. The DPH LNB or switch feeds all 16 tuners over a single line. That's why the Node is no longer needed.I have seen all 16 tuners running a cable directly from LNB to Hopper3 but it does not always work so best to do the correct config. That setup eventually has problems. This i know from experience, having tried multiple setups.
Are you using Joeys on that too ?
Thank you, you are correct sir!Sorry but this is wrong. I ran my H3 without a hub and saw all tuners. Please do your research before posting incorrect information
I would say the Hub is more like a tap than a diplexor, but you have the right idea.The old "Nodes" were required to feed the three tuners on the older Hopper models because they combined the signals from two DPP lines which can feed only two tuners each. However the Hybrid Hub is a much simpler device, it's basically just a diplexer. The Hub doesn't do anything to feed the tuners on the Hopper 3 or any other Hopper model. The DPH LNB or switch feeds all 16 tuners over a single line. That's why the Node is no longer needed.
Never heard of a 454 switch, what is it?Thank you, you are correct sir!
I would say the Hub is more like a tap than a diplexor, but you have the right idea.
I think the issue of sending Moca back to the LNB is quite simply that it allows problems to occur in the Moca connection.. Now we all know that on a stand alone Hopper, Moca is a moot point, and we also all know that Dish says there are things that don't work, which do, ie. dual Hoppers connected to a 454 switch via Duo hob or connected clients on 2 solo hubs
Typo, lol, and a bad one. I meant 42 switchNever heard of a 454 switch, what is it?
If Dish says two H3s can't run off of the DPH42, why do they make Hybrid Duo Hubs?Typo, lol, and a bad one. I meant 42 switch
Two H3s definitely run off of a 42 switch. In fact it is a requirement for that configuration.If Dish says two H3s can't run off of the DPH42, why do they make Hybrid Duo Hubs?
I know, but if you look at Hipkat's previous post, it sounds like Dish doesn't like the idea. I'm just curious what Dish has in mind.Two H3s definitely run off of a 42 switch. In fact it is a requirement for that configuration.
If Dish says two H3s can't run off of the DPH42, why do they make Hybrid Duo Hubs?
Right, the old Hoppers. I keep forgetting about those for some reason lol2 hopper 1’s, 2 hopper 2’s and Hopper w/super Joey all off a hybrid Lnbf use duo hubs
Yes, I have done that both ways.Little off topic- but will a Hopper Duo run off a DPP44 switch hooked to a 1000.4EA dish with a DPP LNB? Also will it work directly hooked to a 1000.4EA port with a DPP LNB?
Thanks, Gerry