Yes, that was one of the advantages when I recently switched from a Wally back to a ViP211k. DVR functionality had been completely broken on any Wally on my account, so I was just glad to get DVR functionality back at all. Getting 4x-FF back was a nice bonus. You may want to consider adding a ViP211k instead of a Joey. It wouldn't integrate with the Hopper, obviously, but at least you would have 4x-FF.
I am not sure exactly what the limitation is, but the 4K Joey has become really outdated, since it does not even do HDR. (All of this is kind of a moot point, since there have apparently been no 4K events available on Dish for quite awhile, anyway.) When Dish does finally decide to start offering more 4K HDR, that would be the time to release an updated version of the 4K Joey, and hopefully, a 4K Wally also.
Yeah, TiVo...the swine.
I don't know since I cancelled my order for the 4k Joey a few weeks ago. I didn't want to get roped into another 2 years and I am going to cord cut in a month or two
i know not happy about thatAs I have also complained (ad nauseam, I'm sure) this is also what I hate about the Wally.
...which was also supposed to have PIP. That was one of the features that was originally announced when the 4K Joey first came out, but Dish dropped the ball on that one.
As mentioned earlier in the thread, the original 4K Joey advertised that PIP was "coming soon". That's why I got it at the time I upgraded to the Hopper 3.
this is a new and horrible feature
Mine has been doing that since I've had it. I don't actually know when that was it was it was so many years now.
I speculated that they may have dropped plans for PIP on the 4K Joey when they decided to make the 4K Joey compatible with Hopper Duo. I am guessing that they did not want the Joey tying up both tuners for Live TV.As mentioned earlier in the thread, the original 4K Joey advertised that PIP was "coming soon". That's why I got it at the time I upgraded to the Hopper 3.
...as do many of us. Removing it accomplished absolutely nothing but to take away a useful feature.
Okay, so what is the excuse for no PIP on the Wally? There is no need to send the streams anywhere else. That just leaves either "not enough horsepower" or just sheer laziness (or incompetence). I could understand the Wally not having PIP when it was first released, since it was only operational as a single-tuner receiver at that time, until they finally added the software to enable the second tuner. I would have expected PIP to be added at some point after that, though. (I can see the argument that both streams would have to be sent to the external hard drive for DVR-enabled Wally receivers. Dish could get around that by either only enabling PIP on non-DVR Wally receivers, or by only providing a buffer for the video in the main window, not the one in the PIP window. Either option would be an improvement over no PIP at all. It would also finally provide a use for the second tuner in non-DVR Wally receivers, where that tuner would otherwise just go to waste.)
There is no need to do that. Just use the solution that I posted earlier: either add a ViP211 to your account, or go back to using all ViP equipment.
Ahhh...not as deep. If my 4K goes down, I'll ask for this as replacement.
