You're welcome,and glad you got it going.It used to be a PITA trying to remember which box used a null and which used a straight.Thank you Waylew! I was using a straight cable instead of a null type. I simply rewired my staight cable and then it updated with no problem. Also, the firmware update fixed the reception issue on the hd Channels located on amc 21. Thanks again to all who help me solve this problem. Here's to you guys & gals, Cheers , your pal Chip.