Pb missing

[Tommyy2]

You might just switch that Pb cable on both ends with another of the component cables i/e the Pr and see what happens, Make sure to switch both ends of both cables. If it stays the same the cables are good and the TV or Hopper is bad, if it changes the Pb cable is bad.

In a pinch I've used good audio cables to deliver component signals.
Not the greatest but should be good enough for you to see.

 

[TheKrell]

Excellent advice.

By the way, my Roku SE, which is probably the slowest Roku ever invented, works fine and puts out all three colors via HDMI. It remains for me to track down the break in that Pb cable, or else finger the TV or the H3.

 

[navychop]

All analog outs are going away. Agreed to many years ago.


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[TheKrell]

All analog outs are going away. Agreed to many years ago.

But but... The H3 has analog outputs. It's the component inputs that are keeping me from buying a 4K 43" Roku TV for $200.

 

[DWS44]

It's the component inputs that are keeping me from buying a 4K 43" Roku TV for $200.

Why the strong preference on using analog input? Do you have other older devices with no digital output that you still need to connect?

 

[Juan]

That 4k tv is probably not much of an upgrade over your current HD tv...if you want 4k...go big

But but... The H3 has analog outputs. It's the component inputs that are keeping me from buying a 4K 43" Roku TV for $200.

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[TheKrell]

Why the strong preference on using analog input?

About 15 years ago, I fished an HDMI cable from my equipment room through the ceiling and up into the wall behind my family room TV. I also fished component cables through the ceiling to an outlet in the basement. This allowed my 722 and now my Hopper to show HD on my family room as well as my basement TVs. This has worked well for many years, until the Pb feed quit working a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Cheddar_Head]

"Pb missing" Am I the only one that read this as "Get the Lead out"?

 

[the mack]

"Pb missing" Am I the only one that read this as "Get the Lead out"?

I thought someone stole his jar of JIF

 

[Bobby]

About 15 years ago, I fished an HDMI cable from my equipment room through the ceiling and up into the wall behind my family room TV. I also fished component cables through the ceiling to an outlet in the basement. This allowed my 722 and now my Hopper to show HD on my family room as well as my basement TVs. This has worked well for many years, until the Pb feed quit working a couple of weeks ago.

First, bring your Hopper to the basement and hook it up to the component ins and outs using any kind of RCA cables you might have, this is only a test. Just make sure that each wire out of the Hopper matches the in of the TV (Green, Red, Blue). Of course you won't get a signal because you don't have a coax hooked up but if you push Menu you should get a full menu screen. Are all the colors correct? If so then both your Hopper and TV ports are just fine and that proves that it is your component cabling that is the issue. If not the next thing to try is to use another device that has component out and hook it up the same way as we just did with the Hopper. Good colors? Then that means that your Hopper component output is not good. Bad Colors? this means that it is the TV component input that has the issue. If it is the component cable that has the problem there are some things that can be done, like replace it with an HDMI cable using the component cable itself as a pull cable. There are devices available to output multiple HDMI signals from your Hopper, perhaps you already have one of those.

 

[Tommyy2]

Does not component send the video over three coax cables?
Aren't the three cables exactly the same?

If you swapped the signals between two of the cables, i/e red and blue cables swapping at both the DVR and TV on a working setup wouldn't it still work correctly?
Wouldn't the wrong color TV image change if either the red or blue cable was bad?
Wouldn't the wrong color TV image stay exactly the same if the cable was good and the TV or DVR was bad?

 

[TheKrell]

1. Yes.
2. Y Pb Pr go down 3 identical cables.
3. That's not a bad idea for my long cable runs, and figuring out whether or not it's the cable. If I swap the Pb with the Pr at both ends, nothing should change. But if the colors do change, then the break is in the cable formerly connected to the Pb input and output.
4. Yes.
5. I think so. In that case, this doesn't isolate whether it's the TV or the Hopper.

 

[TheKrell]

It would appear that my last cable from wall to TV went bad. Colors fixed. I'm still pissed that I can't buy a cheap TV with component cables any longer. They exist but are few and far between. The new ONN brand seems still to have component, but I was hoping to buy a Roku TV. For now, I just bought a Roku Express to go with my el cheapo white Cielo. Price was right at $25 from Amazon delivered tomorrow.

By the way, in an unrelated problem with the Hopper, my wife reports that when she starts Netflix or YouTube on the Hopper, the picture quits! I haven't seen anybody else here complain about their Hoppers crapping out like that. You can't get 4K out of either app, can you? When this happens, I see no picture on my component Cielo nor my HDMI Hisense. I have previously reported an incompatibility with the Hisense and the Hopper going into 4K mode. And I can't see 4K over component, so this might explain the issue.

 

[TheKrell]

I'm still pissed that I can't buy a cheap TV with component [inputs] any longer.

I haven't seen ANY new tv sets with component inputs anymore. I believe they consider that obsolete.

Darn it all to hell! You appear to be right. I must have rejected 20 or 30 Roku TV's from consideration because of the lack of component inputs. I guess I can just buy any of the new Roku TV's w/o component inputs and add one of these:

Amazon product ASIN B07CP2FFS3

 

[osu1991]

My newest 75in 4K LG set I just bought last Christmas has a combo composite/component input. I haven’t looked at anything smaller than 65in lately. Maybe the smaller sets don’t have them now. I’m glad the 2yr old 50in 4K LG, I have in my office has that combo port as the TiVo mini I have in there lost the hdmi port last year and I switched it to component.

 

[Tommyy2]

I haven't seen ANY new tv sets with component inputs anymore. I believe they consider that obsolete.

I believe there is no copyright protection that can be applied over component so there's a lot of pressure to for it to be killed and just leave us with HDMI and HDCP protection.

 

[Juan]

You cant get 4k over component

It would appear that my last cable from wall to TV went bad. Colors fixed. I'm still pissed that I can't buy a cheap TV with component cables any longer. They exist but are few and far between. The new ONN brand seems still to have component, but I was hoping to buy a Roku TV. For now, I just bought a Roku Express to go with my el cheapo white Cielo. Price was right at $25 from Amazon delivered tomorrow.

By the way, in an unrelated problem with the Hopper, my wife reports that when she starts Netflix or YouTube on the Hopper, the picture quits! I haven't seen anybody else here complain about their Hoppers crapping out like that. You can't get 4K out of either app, can you? When this happens, I see no picture on my component Cielo nor my HDMI Hisense. I have previously reported an incompatibility with the Hisense and the Hopper going into 4K mode. And I can't see 4K over component, so this might explain the issue.

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[ncted]

I keep reading this thread title and wondering where the lead went.

 

[TheKrell]

I keep reading this thread title and wondering where the lead went.

You are not alone.

"Pb missing" Am I the only one that read this as "Get the Lead out"?