Yeap, I've seen that a lot of times. You have to admit, on one hand Dish kinda dumbed down the system but on the other hand, especially with the Hopper, they've almost eliminated any possible confusion in tuning to an SD channel when an HD version exists.they simply say that they don't remember the #s for HD. Why cable suppliers don't allow customers to defer to HD like Dish does is amazing! Even to list the channels SD and HD right next to each other in their guide like Dish does would help.