Orby TV OTA EPG data through satellite or local signal?

[Amiga]

Anyone know how the Orby boxes receive their over-the-air (local channels through antenna) EPG (electronic program guide) data.

• Is it through the OTA signal or via the satellite and provided by Gracenote or TiVo/Rovi?
  
• Are local logos part of Orby's EPG?

 

[k.r.]

Ota signal

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[comfortably_numb]

Ota signal

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So you only get the couple days of PSIP data for your OTA channels?

 

[k.r.]

I have 1 wk guide on my ota

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[comfortably_numb]

I have 1 wk guide on my ota

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That's not PSIP, then. PSIP is only 2-3 days tops, IIRC.

 

[primestar31]

That's not PSIP, then. PSIP is only 2-3 days tops, IIRC.

That's not true. Psip EPG data can go out to 16 days max. It's up to the particular station engineer as to what he sets it at.

When ATSC 1.0 first came out, our local OTA stations provided a consistent two weeks of Psip EPG.

 

[Titanium]

The OTA EPG is PSIP.

At my home I receive stations from Sacramento and San Francisco markets. The data ranges between 2 and 10 days.

 

[comfortably_numb]

That's not true. Psip EPG data can go out to 16 days max. It's up to the particular station engineer as to what he sets it at.

When ATSC 1.0 first came out, our local OTA stations provided a consistent two weeks of Psip EPG.

Well I'll be darned. I've never seen more then 2 or 3 days tops on ANY station in my area.

 

[primestar31]

Well I'll be darned. I've never seen more then 2 or 3 days tops on ANY station in my area.

Contact your station engineers, tell them you are "loyal OTA only viewer" and that you love watching their station, and let them know you'd really appreciate it if they could crank out more days of EPG.

 

[Titanium]

Contact your station engineers, tell them you are "loyal OTA only viewer" and that you love watching their station, and let them know you'd really appreciate it if they could crank out more days of EPG.

Not like it would cost them any more to transmit 2 days or 2 weeks! LOL

 

[comfortably_numb]

Not like it would cost them any more to transmit 2 days or 2 weeks! LOL

Why don't they do it, then? 2 weeks of guide data would make it so much easier to schedule recordings!

 

[Titanium]

Why don't they do it, then? 2 weeks of guide data would make it so much easier to schedule recordings!

Do like primestar31 suggested. Call the stations and ask. Worst thing they could say is no or offer you a job loading the data. LOL.

 

[primestar31]

Why don't they do it, then? 2 weeks of guide data would make it so much easier to schedule recordings!

Pure laziness, they don't monitor their own signal, and/or they just don't care if nobody complains.

When I've had issues a few times with improper TSID data, I had a few friends that also had Tivo's that couldn't record. I could NOT get them interested in also contacting the station engineers along with me. Amazing, because without that data, it's impossible to get EPG that a Tivo can record from.

So, I did it myself, and got it fixed in a few days. IF more people complained NICELY about OTA stuff like that, you can BET it would be fixed and corrected very quickly.

Apathy, and/or people just don't understand what OTA really is capable of. After all, there's an entire generation of people out there that have had NOTHING but cable tv of some sort their entire lives! I didn't have cable until I was almost 30 years old, but I keep up on technology.

 

[navychop]

Some stations near Hagerstown MD go out beyond two weeks. But it’s all the same program. Named “digital programming” IIRC.






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[comfortably_numb]

people just don't understand what OTA really is capable of. After all, there's an entire generation of people out there that have had NOTHING but cable tv of some sort their entire lives! I didn't have cable until I was almost 30 years old, but I keep up on technology.

I had neighbors who actually thought OTA was illegal when I put up my outdoor antenna. I said "I get 47 channels for free over the air," and they said "So you're a hacker then?"

So now I just say "Yes, yes I am."

 

[primestar31]

I had neighbors who actually thought OTA was illegal when I put up my outdoor antenna. I said "I get 47 channels for free over the air," and they said "So you're a hacker then?"

So now I just say "Yes, yes I am."

Tell them: "No, I'm just a Democrat, like you"! LOL

 

[comfortably_numb]

Tell them: "No, I'm just a Democrat, like you"! LOL

Ha!

 

[truckracer]

Tell them: "No, I'm just a Democrat, like you"! LOL

Hahaha

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[Mister B]

To get back to the original question, I have monitored the OTA guide carefully to come to a determination. I think it is a blend of both PSIP and satellite delivered guide information. The first day I connected an antenna to the Orby system, the guide was definitely PSIP. It was only 6 or at best 12 hours of data but more tellingly, I saw the same incorrect schedule for a couple of the sub-channels that has always been present. Specifically, the ION guide has always been off by 3 hours. This is probably an East/West network feed issue.
The next day, I had two weeks of guide data for most of the channels and the guide data for ION was correct. I even switched the cable directly to my TV and the data was still wrong for ION by PSIP. However, I believe the data for the Mexican stations and a couple of the low power unaffiliated locals was still PSIP. Some Juarez channels have guide data at least for a few hours and other have none at all. Many of the Juarez stations are translators from Mexico City.
As far as which of the major companies are supplying the satellite provided data, I have not figured that one out.

 

[Titanium]

The satellite channel EPG data is provided by satellite and the terrestrial channel EPG via terrestrial. The satellite data stream does not contain any type of data for the terrestrial channels.