So I was on that DBS website reading a post that said dish charged their account but had not shipped the 811 receiver and they ordered it 9 days ago, so it got me thinking since I had ordered mine on 8/19/04 and have not received it I called dish to inquire it's where abouts. Before I called I checked my online checking account to see if I had been charged and I was the day after I called. Anyway after a long wait on the phone with the csr trying to find out where my receiver was she finally comes back on and says it has not shipped yet because there was a big demand for them but she said I should get it next week sometime and if I don't to call back. Ok that sucks since I've been going home to see if it's there yet everyday, anyway on that other website SimpleSimon said that if they charge you the item has to ship within 48 hours. If that's true what do you do about it cause they are way late in shipping.