SRL/Sky are not stupid they are laying low till NPS is done. What you said about NPS makes allot of sense, anything that SRL & Skyvision has said already has been twisted when told by NPS. Bad press is not what they need. I think the official roll out word of what is going to happen for starters will be coming very soon since it's only a little over a month away.
NPS is ending their C-Band signals on 12-26-10
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SRL/Sky are not stupid they are laying low till NPS is done. What you said about NPS makes allot of sense, anything that SRL & Skyvision has said already has been twisted when told by NPS. Bad press is not what they need. I think the official roll out word of what is going to happen for starters will be coming very soon since it's only a little over a month away.
Probably waiting for the meter to go down.
And man is it out there! I wonder if NPS will doing Black Friday specials? Switch to Dish Today and we'll throw in an autograph toaster with Mike & Charlie's names on it for only $69.95 extra a month for the duration of your 2 year contract. 
I wonder if most know that NPS gets kickbacks from each subscriber they sign up not only for the initial switchover, but also each month the subscriber stays with dish. Mike will be raping X C banders for many years to come without them even knowing it. How stupid and gullible is the public
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left NPS a while ago due to the lies
Been with Skyvision and just re-upped our W5 package. Only could re-up till 1/4/2011 at which point I was told that I would need to do a 7-step Master Reset to continue subscribing to W5. I pointed out that (and confirmed) that this would wipe out the saved sat position maps and the rep got huffy when I said that, rendering a good unit (dsr-922),useless as a dish mover was not something I was ready to do. He basically said, you have NO CHOICE after 1/4 /2011 , IF you want to continue using the dsr-922 for W5 subscriptions. As far as I know,there are other sats that provide PPV and XXX that can be subscribed to that are not on w5.
Are there other units that can be used to subscribe to HITS and other authorization methods on ALL the SATS available?
Been with Skyvision and just re-upped our W5 package. Only could re-up till 1/4/2011 at which point I was told that I would need to do a 7-step Master Reset to continue subscribing to W5. I pointed out that (and confirmed) that this would wipe out the saved sat position maps and the rep got huffy when I said that, rendering a good unit (dsr-922),useless as a dish mover was not something I was ready to do. He basically said, you have NO CHOICE after 1/4 /2011 , IF you want to continue using the dsr-922 for W5 subscriptions. As far as I know,there are other sats that provide PPV and XXX that can be subscribed to that are not on w5.
Are there other units that can be used to subscribe to HITS and other authorization methods on ALL the SATS available?
I felt the same way, that's why I decided (wasn't too hard to decide) not to ruin my dsr-922 as a satellite dish mover. It still has a lot of use as a positioner, and including the generics and ITC stuff, it was a no-brainer. I wish I knew whose decision it was to render the box useless as a mover after the W5 F/W upgrade. My bets would be on Motorola.
You can buy a DSR410 from Skyvision and do the W5 without ruining your 4dtv receiver. I hope that SRL or Skyvision goes to a dvb-s2 compatible receiver in the future, that would be the cat's meow.
There are PPV and adult channels still in DCII split (4dtv compatible) mode, but they decided long ago not to sell to us. Last time I checked the PPV preview channel was ITC in generic tile. I saw somewhere there is an adult channel(s) still available for 4dtv, but I'm not really into that, so I can't answer that. The way I understand it is the -only- programming that we will be able to buy on a 4dtv will be on W5/105W. Scripps, Discovery Nets, HBO, and Starz Entertainment networks had no problem selling us programming, but Motorola decided to end it.
>> Mike Kohl would sell a lot more of us programming if he could talk Motorola into leaving tiles alone. <<
Sounds like I'll be using my 905 for the W5 service. Were they ever able to fix the polarizer control in the new firmware? or will I be forced to buy a LNBF if I don't want to manually change polarities with the 922?
I reread the posts here and think there is a communication breakdown between the poster that said SRL said only AI will be sent and SRL.. Yes if you do a MR you will loose all your stored satellite positions and have to reprogram them to the stock 21 tiles or what new combination is offered but I doubt there will only be AI/W5/X4 whatever they will call it. Just look at how shaw maps a 921 it maps F1R and adds many other tiles. Hopefully the tile set we get add the generics and more. We will know within 6 weeks tops the answer.
Mike has a request out to the right people. Hopefully they will listen I hope Comcast isn't hard headed and just blow us off. If they do the numbers will be less for sure.
I'm going to say one thing about this whole "master reset" thing. Bull$#!t! 
That unit will have THE SAME unit ID number regardless of whether or not a master reset is done.
Authorize that number through HITS and it has to work. Period. The provider ID will change to whatever datastream the unit sees. You can overflow your TDT count just by looking at Anik. Why? Because the unit just saw another stream from a different provider. I see no reason that HITS wouldn't work the same way once the Motorola stream stops. "Point and you shall receive":up ...watch and see.
That unit will have THE SAME unit ID number regardless of whether or not a master reset is done.
Authorize that number through HITS and it has to work. Period. The provider ID will change to whatever datastream the unit sees. You can overflow your TDT count just by looking at Anik. Why? Because the unit just saw another stream from a different provider. I see no reason that HITS wouldn't work the same way once the Motorola stream stops. "Point and you shall receive"
:up ...watch and see.
I'm going to say one thing about this whole "master reset" thing. Bull$#!t!
That unit will have THE SAME unit ID number regardless of whether or not a master reset is done.
Authorize that number through HITS and it has to work. Period. The provider ID will change to whatever datastream the unit sees. You can overflow your TDT count just by looking at Anik. Why? Because the unit just saw another stream from a different provider. I see no reason that HITS wouldn't work the same way once the Motorola stream stops. "Point and you shall receive"
I believe the master reset needs to be done in order to download new firmware for the guide to work with HITS's guide service.
I'm going to say one thing about this whole "master reset" thing. Bull$#!t!
That unit will have THE SAME unit ID number regardless of whether or not a master reset is done.
Authorize that number through HITS and it has to work. Period. The provider ID will change to whatever datastream the unit sees. You can overflow your TDT count just by looking at Anik. Why? Because the unit just saw another stream from a different provider. I see no reason that HITS wouldn't work the same way once the Motorola stream stops. "Point and you shall receive"
I have to agree Euro, but any firmware update may be for the guide as Techguru pointed out. I would forgo the guide if I can leave my 4D satellite maps as is and still sub. I can use Direct's guide, like I've been doing. I had no guide for 2 months now and back in the analog days there was no such thing and I survived without it.
Now if they really wanted to do a firmware update they should add the function for manual entries to work and to manually set the clock.
Actually there was a guide that worked with analog receivers. It was called Superguide. They had a standalone version that could be connected with your receiver, and they had another version that was built into some receivers..I think it was called the king viper or something like that. Don't you remember all those satellite shopping chs? I think the guy's name was Gary, who used to sale these units. They even had a haggle section on one of those programs. This was also when Skyvision used to advertise a lot via analog signals. I wonder whatever happened to the good ole days? Oh yea, now I remember...pizza and NPS, and of course MOT. They all 3 ruined it for us all.
Yep, I remember Superguide it was standard in one of the Uniden receivers. Required a subscription. Sure I remember Satellite City with the Super Ice LNB and King Viper Receiver. Thats when Alan was on the Skyvision show. There also was Doug Denhert and the Sky store, Shawn Kenny with Greensheets and some other smaller shows. Also all the radio shows, Friday Night Live, KSAT and CSAT, Tom and Darell, and there were others. C band really was great we had stuff before even cable had it. Then the stupid pizza pan emerged in 94 (DirecTV) and Primestar actually part of TCI.
I bet some of the newer c banders don't even know that Headend in the Sky (HITS our savior) was started by TCI cable, one of the biggest MSO's out there at the time. I hated TCI, they were my local cable operator and the reason I finally got my dish in 87. I held out for a couple years, my original plans were to get a dish in 85 (was looking at them since 79) but that's when scrambling started and everyone was unsure if C band would survive back then. Somehow it did and is still doing it to this day, just on a much smaller scale. I remember looking at brochures for Earth Stations systems in 1979 they were $20,000.00 and required a license to have. The early 80's is when I got to play with my first Satellite system. I'll never forget, went through G1, everything was ITC including the movie channels, it was so cool.
From that point on I was hooked.
The early 80's is when I got to play with my first Satellite system. I'll never forget, went through G1, everything was ITC including the movie channels, it was so cool.
I for one never got a BUD until the SciFi ch first aired on G5. So I'm guessing mid 90s.
But I know all about these free chs you are referring to. The kind of work I did at the time, prior to getting my own BUD, I used to have to stay at motels on occasion. Most of these had the huge BUD out front, and they would pipe some of these itc chs into the rooms. The only problem was, we had to watch what they were watching. A lot of times, one could could call into the office and they would switch chs for you. And then there was some motels that only played the free porno chs. But I remember all that, even tho I didn't have a BUD at the time. I remember watching TBS, ShowTime, HBO, you name it, when I stayed at some of these places. I remember thinking at the time..man these motels sure have some quality tvs. But it wasn't that the tvs were so steallar, it was what they were feeding them, that's what was stellar.
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