NOW you can talk about the national championship

[SamCdbs]

College football's national championship has nothing to do with being the best team, per se. It has to do with having the least losses, preferabably none, and being in a BcS conference.

There are, after 5 weeks of play, only 18 teams left with no defeats. Five are excluded by the illegal BcS cartel, Ball State, Boise State, Utah, Brigham Young, and Tulsa, so they do not count. Although the BYU - Utah winner, if undefeated with get a BcS slot. Big deal.

That leaves 13 teams. One of these WILL be the "national champion" unless ALL of them lose.

The SEC: Alabama, LSU, Vandy, and Kentucky. Vandy and Kentucky are pretenders, expecially UK which has played no one, but the Alabama - LSU winner is a strong contender. Of course, every week in the SEC is an elimination week. Going undefeated in the SEC is the most difficult thing in sports. Circle Nov 8th anyway.

The Big 10: Northwestern and Penn State. NW is a pretender, but it does not play Penn State or Wisconsin. Penn State has two difficult games away, Wisconsin and Ohio State, but it is a doable thing for PSU to win out. If NW can get by OSU, it has about as light a draw as one can get in the Big 10.

The Big 12: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, and Missouri. The first four have to all play one another. OSU and TTU have not played anybody good yet, and will fall by the wayside. Oklahoma - Texas in two weeks looks like a game for the ages. Missouri has to play @ Nebraska and @ Texas. They cannot hang.

And, last and least, the Leastleftovers. South Florida and UConn. Other than playing each other, they play each other on November 23rd, but who else do they play? Fans of a legitimate national championship game may have to become fans of WVU, especially for its last game where it hosts South Florida in the cold of December.

There you go. Untill all of the above mentioned lose, that is all of the teams that can win it. Which is why college football's regular season is so wonderful and meaningful.

 

[Jimbo]

Why exactly is NOW the time we can talk about it vs last week or next week ?

You can say this team or that team hasn't played anyone yet, but each and every year there is a team that seems to be a nobody that in the end we say, Hey, maybe they were good after all.

Did anyone know S. Florida a few years back ?

Yolu cannot simply bring up the top teams and say "They are Pretenders" just because in your mind they have not played anyone.

Last year everyone said the Big Ten stunk, till they had a pretty good record in the bowls games, outside of the MNC game they were da*n good when the bowls came around.

You want to do it right , lets get a 16 team playoff going starting Dec 1st, no longer do we need the "Conference Championship" games as they are just for them to make more MONEY anyways and a way to say My conference is better than yours anyways.

So far you have said everyone on your list is a Pretender and also said that your list is the list of teams that could possibly win.

Do you really want to see a Ball State play Oklahoma in a MNC game ?
Oh wait, Oklahoma may be a bad choice of teams.....

If all of these teams are OUT, who's there to WIN it ?

Jimbo

 

[allargon]

The crappiest, most overrated league this year appears to be the Pac-10. I love to pick on the Big East and the Big 12--not this year.

The Big 12 may actually be better than the SEC. The Big 10 still sucks this year. I think PSU will take it all. The SEC? LSU still has to get by FL and GA in addition to AL. AL still has to get by Auburn. Auburn is not a bad team. They will not just lie down. LSU proved for the first time ever that a team can win the national championship with two losses.

IMHO, any WAC or Mountain West team that comes out undefeated also deserves a shot at the title. They beat the heck out of those cream puffs in the Pac-10 this year. The Big East doesn't deserve to have BCS status.

Who goes to the championship game? It's a little early. However, my thought is Big 12 title winner (between TX/OK likely OK) and Penn State or the SEC champion (likely AL even though I attended LSU). It will be the Big 12 vs. the SEC or the Big 10. However, I do believe the Big 12 title winner will go this year.


===BTB===

I will laugh like no one's business if Vandy somehow wins the SEC East not FL or GA.

 

[Jimbo]

The crappiest, most overrated league this year appears to be the Pac-10. I love to pick on the Big East and the Big 12--not this year.

The Big 12 may actually be better than the SEC. The Big 10 still sucks this year. I think PSU will take it all. The SEC? LSU still has to get by FL and GA in addition to AL. AL still has to get by Auburn. Auburn is not a bad team. They will not just lie down. LSU proved for the first time ever that a team can win the national championship with two losses.

IMHO, any WAC or Mountain West team that comes out undefeated also deserves a shot at the title. They beat the heck out of those cream puffs in the Pac-10 this year. The Big East doesn't deserve to have BCS status.

Who goes to the championship game? It's a little early. However, my thought is Big 12 title winner (between TX/OK likely OK) and Penn State or the SEC champion (likely AL even though I attended LSU). It will be the Big 12 vs. the SEC or the Big 10. However, I do believe the Big 12 title winner will go this year.


===BTB===

I will laugh like no one's business if Vandy somehow wins the SEC East not FL or GA.

Wait a minute,
You say the Big Ten still Suck, but you pick a Big Ten team to be in the MNC game (Penn State) ?

I think the Big Ten will have a lot more to say in the coming weeks,
Why is it when the Big Ten teams beat up on one another the league sucks but when the SEC teams beat up on one another , thier a great league ?

Ohio State will be back up soon, Penn State game will tell a lot, State is up there playing well, Wisconsin will be back, they play one bad half and they suddenly are no good ?
If Ohio State beats them bad, maybe not, but if Wisconsin beats Ohio State they should move back up in the polls.

Not sure what to make of Illinois yet ...

Jimbo

 

[SamCdbs]

And after 2 weeks, all that is left (leaving out the cartel excluded Tulsa, Ball State, Boise State, Utah and BYU) are:

- Alabama. Mediocre (by SEC standards) Mississippi, the colapsing program at Tennessee, should be I-AA Arkansas State, bad Mississippi State, the colapsing program at Auburn. And LSU and an SEC Championship game with the Florida - Georgia winner (or Vandy) .

- Penn State. Hapless Michigan, mediocre Iowa, bad Indiana. And Ohio State and Michigan State.

- The Big 12 South. Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech all have to play each other. Plus the rest.

IMHO, Texas has the best shot at running the table.

 

[Jimbo]

And after 2 weeks, all that is left (leaving out the cartel excluded Tulsa, Ball State, Boise State, Utah and BYU) are:

- Alabama. Mediocre (by SEC standards) Mississippi, the colapsing program at Tennessee, should be I-AA Arkansas State, bad Mississippi State, the colapsing program at Auburn. And LSU and an SEC Championship game with the Florida - Georgia winner (or Vandy) .

- Penn State. Hapless Michigan, mediocre Iowa, bad Indiana. And Ohio State and Michigan State.

- The Big 12 South. Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech all have to play each other. Plus the rest.

IMHO, Texas has the best shot at running the table.

I'll take Alabama !

 

[cybok0]

Alabama Vs. Penn State, with Penn State winning.

 

[mccoyrj]

Alabama Vs. Penn State, with Penn State winning.

That's not how it turned out in the 1979 Sugar Bowl.

I was at that one by the way.

 

[Derwin0]

Alabama Vs. Penn State, with Penn State winning.

The Tide Rolling over Penn St, with Paterno FINALLY retiring after getting a Big 10 championship.

 

[SabresRule]

Sam, can you say something positive for once?

All you do is rain on everyone's parade.

You NEVER say anything happy!

 

[mccoyrj]

I'm saying Penn St. and USC...right now.

 

[SabresRule]

Can you recall any teams in college football weathering a humiliating loss to win the national title?

(LSU's losses to Arkansas and Kentucky were not humilating; those were quality teams with a superstar player)

 

[Jimbo]

Can you recall any teams in college football weathering a humiliating loss to win the national title?

(LSU's losses to Arkansas and Kentucky were not humilating; those were quality teams with a superstar player)

Oregon States RB, we may find out is a SuperStar, doesn't that count, just because he's a freshman doesn't mean it doesn't count.

Jimbo

 

[Jimbo]

I'm saying Penn St. and USC...right now.

Maybe if Ohio State beats Penn State and someone knocks off USC that matchup can happen in a way the Pac 10 would love , in the Rose Bowl with Big 10 (11) and Pac 8 (10).

Jimbo

 

[mccoyrj]

Maybe if Ohio State beats Penn State and someone knocks off USC that matchup can happen in a way the Pac 10 would love , in the Rose Bowl with Big 10 (11) and Pac 8 (10).

Jimbo

If Ohio State knocks off a highly ranked and undefeated Penn St., and USC loses again, they more than likely will wind up in the MNC. You watch.

 

[SabresRule]

mccoy,

what bowl game do you see LSU playing in?

 

[mccoyrj]

mccoy,

what bowl game do you see LSU playing in?

As bad as they looked last night, they could be lucky to get in the Independence Bowl. They have to go into South Carolina next week againt Spurrier, come home to play Georgia, Alabama, and Ole Miss among others, then finish at Arkansas. If their QBs don't come around and play more consistenly and they don't get healthy on defense, it could be a disappointing season to say the least.

 

[SabresRule]

INDEPENDENCE BOWL?

WOW- I personally have them making the Outback/Cotton Bowl.

 

[mccoyrj]

INDEPENDENCE BOWL?

WOW- I personally have them making the Outback/Cotton Bowl.

It all depends on how they come back from this loss to the Gators.

Who do you see winning out of Missouri/Texas?

 

[anders5189]

As bad as they looked last night, they could be lucky to get in the Independence Bowl. They have to go into South Carolina next week againt Spurrier, come home to play Georgia, Alabama, and Ole Miss among others, then finish at Arkansas. If their QBs don't come around and play more consistenly and they don't get healthy on defense, it could be a disappointing season to say the least.

You CANNOT lose to the chickens!!!! LSU's scout team ought to be able to beat them. This season's going so well right now. The last thing I need is to hear is that the Ol Ball Sack is some coaching genius again.