Only one person has showed something listed on a website that was untrue. Again, there is nothing untrue listed on the original link. It is assumed, and probably reasonably so, that HD is included in that pack, but nowhere does it say that HD is actually listed in that pack. As far as misleading, EVERYTHING in business is misleading, and yes, the consumer should do their homework or accept the consequences if it was not as assumed. If it is not blatantly put there, then it is not being told to you that is the case. ZippyFrog showed where it was BLATANTLY put out there. If we are going to talk about how people should not have to do their homework and how bad dish is with misleading, then you could come up with a better argument such as Dish and DTV new customer promotions and having two seperate websites for new and current customers. See how the difference starts to matter? If a consumer wants something, they better know exactly what they are getting. If a company tried to do that, and it went against what you said, you would tell them the same answer I am giving, so I am just giving it straight in both directions. I expect a company to serve me as expressly written in our agreement. Anything else that is not written in is not expected, and always nice to get. This is not limited to just my TV service, but also my home security, school, phone, internet and any other service provider.