New Member - hopper 3 in a motorhome

[Jims Motorhome]

So I switched the Trav'ler back to 61.5, did a test installation, waited for the guide to download.
All my locals are back (and all my channels are in the guide) but I only have 2 days of guide.

This is screwed up. I'm beginning to think the replacement Hopper they sent me 2 months ago is bad.

 

[JSheridan]

So I switched the Trav'ler back to 61.5, did a test installation, waited for the guide to download.
All my locals are back (and all my channels are in the guide) but I only have 2 days of guide.

This is screwed up. I'm beginning to think the replacement Hopper they sent me 2 months ago is bad.

There's probably nothing wrong with the Hopper, that's the way its designed to work. To get all the channels and the full guide from a particular arc you have to be pointed at all of the satellites for that arc. Eastern arc is 61.5 and 72, western arc is 110, 119 and 129.

 

[Jims Motorhome]

When I pointed the Dish at 72, I got 10 days VOD, Music CD's, and pornography in my guide, nothing else.
Note I don't subscribe to or watch any of that.

With the dish pointed at 61.5, I get a 2 days of guide showing all my (subscribed) channels.

JSheridan, I know you are a recognized expert here, I respect your answers and appreciate the time you took to provide them, but I need to work within the limitations of my equipment. 61.5 and 72 at the same time is not going to happen (nor do I believe it will help me get more than 2 days of guide from channels that are on 61.5, nor do I believe it will help me with channels intermittently blacking out. As my Knoxville HD locals are only on 61.5, it seems I'm stuck there.
Note I used to use western arc, and just deal with locals not in HD, but dish musta changed something, I no longer get anything below 71 when on western arc.

 

[JSheridan]

When I pointed the Dish at 72, I got 10 days VOD, Music CD's, and pornography in my guide, nothing else.
Note I don't subscribe to or watch any of that.

With the dish pointed at 61.5, I get a 2 days of guide showing all my (subscribed) channels.

JSheridan, I know you are a recognized expert here, I respect your answers and appreciate the time you took to provide them, but I need to work within the limitations of my equipment. 61.5 and 72 at the same time is not going to happen (nor do I believe it will help me get more than 2 days of guide from channels that are on 61.5, nor do I believe it will help me with channels intermittently blacking out. As my Knoxville HD locals are only on 61.5, it seems I'm stuck there.
Note I used to use western arc, and just deal with locals not in HD, but dish musta changed something, I no longer get anything below 71 when on western arc.

If you have both 61.5 and 72 you will get the 8 day guide for all channels. You will also get all your channels and they will probably be error free unless you have another problem.

Because your dish doesn't support a Hopper you'll probably have to live with the limitations that you've already discovered.

 

[Jims Motorhome]

Perhaps. But this has changed, a couple times over the past few years.

I used to get flawless service (except for SD locals) on WA.
I was told by dish support that my HD locals were only broadcast on 61.5, so I switched to that satellite, and everything was perfect for over a year.
A "few months ago", my system started freaking out. not updating, only giving a couple days of guide, recordings vanishing off the DVR.
I've gone through much with dish support trying to resolve this, and ended up here.

Note: After my last post, I went to the bedroom and turned on that TV (wireless joey) and found it is only receiving the 4 local network channels. Nothing else. I restarted the joey, same. restarting the hopper, joey didn't connect. restarted joey again, back to only 4 network locals.

I'm having a real hard time buying that not getting the porn satellite is causing this.

 

[Jims Motorhome]

Also, just remembered...
Last month we were in Gulf Shore, LA.
HD Locals are on WA there, so that's where I pointed my Trav'ler.
We had all the same issues with various channels not coming in, and the same 2 day guide.

 

[navychop]

What pornography? What porn satellite? Do you mean you see a guide listing for the Playboy channel?


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[Jims Motorhome]

If I switch my Trav'ler dish from only 61.5 to only 72, and let the guide refresh, the only things in the guide are 500's video on demand, a lot of music CD channels, and some dozen channels playing porn.

Note I have no interest in these channels and do not subscribe to them, did not try to watch any of them, it's just the guide I get from Sat 72.

 

[Jim5506]

I believe the full Guide is on 72 for EA, so if you point at 61.5 you lose that guide and get the mini-Guide (two day) off 61.5.

The full guide is only on one satellite on each arc.

If you want full service you have to have a standard dish/lnb setup, not a mobile setup.

The same goes for programming, certain channels are on certain satellites and no where else in each arc.

 

[nelson61]

If I switch my Trav'ler dish from only 61.5 to only 72, and let the guide refresh, the only things in the guide are 500's video on demand, a lot of music CD channels, and some dozen channels playing porn.

Note I have no interest in these channels and do not subscribe to them, did not try to watch any of them, it's just the guide I get from Sat 72.

Yes, 72W has a limited number of popular channels


The complete 72W channel listing: DISH Network Channels by Transponder (Unofficial Listing)

And, the complete 61.5W channel listing: DISH Network Channels by Transponder (Unofficial Listing)

 

[TheKrell]

Yes, 72W has a limited number of popular channels

That being the case, one wonders why the 9-day guide isn't on 61.5?

 

[JSheridan]

That being the case, one wonders why the 9-day guide isn't on 61.5?

They keep moving channels around. It used to be that most all the popular channels were on 72. The long guide has always been on 72.

 

[nelson61]

They keep moving channels around. It used to be that most all the popular channels were on 72. The long guide has always been on 72.

But, as Krell says, it should be on 61.5W so those will a single satellite (travelers, etc) would get the long guide for the most popular channels

 

[JSheridan]

But, as Krell says, it should be on 61.5W so those will a single satellite (travelers, etc) would get the long guide for the most popular channels

The way they keep moving things around there's no telling where the 'popular' channels will be at any given time.

72 has always been the 'anchor' position for the eastern arc like 119 has been for the western arc.

 

[TheKrell]

72 has always been the 'anchor' position for the eastern arc like 119 has been for the western arc.

That made sense when all the nationals were on 72. But when most of them have been moved onto 61.5, what's the point of leaving that guide on the lightly used satellite?

 

[JSheridan]

That made sense when all the nationals were on 72. But when most of them have been moved onto 61.5, what's the point of leaving that guide on the lightly used satellite?

Ya got me, but they probably have their reasons.

 

[Jim5506]

Because all EA stationary dishes include both 61.5 and 72, mobile is an add-on stepchild.

 

[grc]

I doubt that it will help any, but I will mention that I recall being in a spot where I could get only one of the eastern arc satellites at a time (this on a home style dish). I had the same experience with the guide that you describe.