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Unless your HOA does not allow antennas (and they are not even allowed to do that) I would not put the antenna in the attic. Shingles are very good at blocking the signals.
For the DIY'er you can get a 70 mile antenna from Home Improvement stores with a mount and cable for less than $100.00. This would work well for many people.
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I live about 10 miles outside of Cleveland, but all of the Cleveland transmitters are about 2 miles from me. Most of them are really in Seven Hills or around due to the higher terrain. I've had a lot of problems getting "tuned in" with OTA due to my proximity. The best antenna to pick up channel 8 was a paperclip stuck in the OTA input on my 622!
Cleveland's locals are very nice in HD, and when I previously lived about 70 miles away, I was able to get all of them with a small outdoor UHF antenna on a 40' tower. Tower wasn't really necessary, just used it because I already had it. Of course, back then, OTA was really the only way to get HD locals.
Given the quality of OTA, I'd say get an antenna no matter what you do. Plus, when you do get HD locals via DISH, you'll be able to record 3 network programs at once!
Cleveland's locals are very nice in HD, and when I previously lived about 70 miles away, I was able to get all of them with a small outdoor UHF antenna on a 40' tower. Tower wasn't really necessary, just used it because I already had it. Of course, back then, OTA was really the only way to get HD locals.
Given the quality of OTA, I'd say get an antenna no matter what you do. Plus, when you do get HD locals via DISH, you'll be able to record 3 network programs at once!
Quit BS'ing dude, DISHNET SD is SH!T period!
I can stretch the SD's that I get on 4DTV and some DVB channels and they still look great.
Bottom line is. Dish is overcompressing their channels including HD.
Quit BS'ing dude, DISHNET SD is SH!T period!
I can stretch the SD's that I get on 4DTV and some DVB channels and they still look great.
Bottom line is. Dish is overcompressing their channels including HD.
GO crawl back in your little hole. THis customer does not care about how great your BUD(BIG UGLY DISH) is. You have nothing to add to this conversation other than to instigate trouble. IF you can't help then keep you mouth shut.
Dish and SD
I live in California in an area that Dish doesnt broadcast locals in HD and OTA is really not realistic...therefore we watch many programs in SD...For the last 3 years we have watched a 50" Sony Plasma TV monitor linked to a Yamaha RX V2500 AV receiver and a 622 DVR. While the SD picture quality is not equal to HD, most SD broadcasts are very good. Even the Distant Networks and Super Stations. None the less they do not equal DVD quality and I think that is what most people expect when they get HD TV.
If there are knowledgeable technical experts available it might be worth your while to have them tune your setup for optimum viewing or at least assess what is causing the poor PQ....
I live in California in an area that Dish doesnt broadcast locals in HD and OTA is really not realistic...therefore we watch many programs in SD...For the last 3 years we have watched a 50" Sony Plasma TV monitor linked to a Yamaha RX V2500 AV receiver and a 622 DVR. While the SD picture quality is not equal to HD, most SD broadcasts are very good. Even the Distant Networks and Super Stations. None the less they do not equal DVD quality and I think that is what most people expect when they get HD TV.
If there are knowledgeable technical experts available it might be worth your while to have them tune your setup for optimum viewing or at least assess what is causing the poor PQ....
I'm one that disagrees. I have a OTA from Radio Shack and it works GREAT for me. I'm about 35 miles from Tampa and I pick up all the channels with good signal. I use it outdoors so not sure how well it works indoors.
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Most likely you don't have anything else to compare it with. If you did I think you would have a different opinion. I do.
To the OP:
Like someone else already stated....your best bet is to (a) either get a decent (non Rat Shack) OTA....or somehow convince your wife to allow the OTA to be installed outside.
Like I tell a lot of my HD customers, your television was NOT designed with SD in mind. Much like putting 85 octane in a Corvette. Sure it will work. But it won't give you optimum performance.
Like someone else already stated....your best bet is to (a) either get a decent (non Rat Shack) OTA....or somehow convince your wife to allow the OTA to be installed outside.
Like I tell a lot of my HD customers, your television was NOT designed with SD in mind. Much like putting 85 octane in a Corvette. Sure it will work. But it won't give you optimum performance.
Not trying to cause trouble. I just want the truth to be known.
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well, you may wnt to try some decent rabbit ears first..I live 30 miles from downtown chicago, and I bought some amplified rabbit ears from Best buy for 35 bucks,. and I get a signal close to 100 on most of my locals...worth a try, and you can always bring it back to Best Buy..
I take it that you didn't know that the RS antennas are often relabeled Channel Master models.
Dude, I live in Southern California and receive 12 HD stations OTA as well as 18+ analog stations. During baseball season I subscribe to Cox Cable HD for Padre games. I have two big flat panel HDTVs. One you would think is junk (but I think it's damn decent) and one is a 42 inch Panasonic Plasma 1080P top of the line 2007 model. In addition I have three 27 inch analog "picture tube" sets and four 20 inch analog tube sets.Most likely you don't have anything else to compare it with. If you did I think you would have a different opinion. I do.
One of the two TVs in my bedroom turns on by timer at 7:00 AM and turns off at 2:00 AM. I drag a 22 foot trailer to the desert to "get away" but have 7 and 10.5 inch analog LCD sets connected to a Dish analog receiver tied to a Dish 500 antenna and a amplified analog antenna. Power comes from two, dual battery banks charged by dual solar panels so I have am never without power to operate the system (and I have a crumby gasoline generator for extended cloudy periods).
If I visit my brother or my son, they both live in the San Fernando Valley and have an assortment of HD and regular TVS between them. One has cable only but the other has OTA and cable. Stations are plentiful in each house.
If I go elsewhere I take my 7 inch Pocket Dish player.
When San Diego was just beginning to get widespread cable I lead a committee and got my neighborhood wired for cable when there was just 13 stations total (San Diego & L.A. combined) and I got my first Dish receiver just after the launch of Echostar III.
I WATCH A LOT OF TELEVISION and I have watched a lot of television.
Dish SD is just fine.
Those 2 little Tv's I am sure look just fine on DISHSD.
Your 1080P has to look like hell. Or your just gotten used to it or your kidding yourself. Maybe we can get one of the TP analyst guys we have here in the forum to give us a actual bit rate of the DISHSD channels and see how it stacks up to other services available, including feeds that are available free or with sub but require a BUD to view.
SD looks fine on my 65-inch Mitsubishi DLP. One of the main reasons I went with this set is it's ability to display a nice SD picture. It was as good as others in displaying HD, but clearly outshone them when viewing SD.
I am sorry for the problems the OP is experiencing, just putting this here to let people know that not all HDTV's display SD like crap.
I am sorry for the problems the OP is experiencing, just putting this here to let people know that not all HDTV's display SD like crap.
+1 for this. Don't stretch that picture. I bought a 36" sony vega CRT 7 years ago, and I started seeing all kinds of crap I never saw on my 27" Sanyo. Its especially bad on TV stuff from the 80s. I'm not going hidef until I talk the old lady into a full on projector.
