New HD Channels in Jan???

Yeah saw this on their site dont know if its related to Dish or not.


http://www.tandbergtv.com/newsview.asp?n=804

TANDBERG Television Wins $8M+ US MPEG-4 AVC HD Order

Date: Friday, December 22, 2006

Oslo, Norway, 22 December 2006 - TANDBERG Television (TAT.OL), today announced that it has received an order, valued in excess of MUSD 8, from a leading North American satellite broadcaster for its market-leading, second generation MPEG-4 AVC HD EN8090 video compression system.



The contract is a continuation of that direct-to-home provider’s deployment of HD content to local markets. The revenue is expected to be recognized in the fourth quarter of 2006 and the first quarter of 2007.
 
I have a question about the possibility of TBS joining in on an HD channel. TBS is supposed to have a weekly MLB game on Sunday afternoon plus they are alternating with FOX covering the LCS. I certainly hope the folks at MLB kept the HD part of the broadcast in negotiations. I also hope this is a good sign for other TBS content that would look good in HD (Raymond, College football, etc.) I have not found any information that leads me to believe that TBS will go HD anytime soon. I can hope, though.
 
D* and E* are both promising lots of new hd channels soon. Crap shoot. They have no bandwidth available at this time.

Kikkenit,


That statement is half right.

Dish currently has bandwidth for more HD. DirecTV is MAXED out and does NOT have any capacity, in fact almost every Sunday DirecTV has to remove at least one HD channel to make room for the HD Football games on the Sunday Ticket.

John
 
Yeah saw this on their site dont know if its related to Dish or not.


http://www.tandbergtv.com/newsview.asp?n=804

TANDBERG Television Wins $8M+ US MPEG-4 AVC HD Order

Date: Friday, December 22, 2006

Oslo, Norway, 22 December 2006 - TANDBERG Television (TAT.OL), today announced that it has received an order, valued in excess of MUSD 8, from a leading North American satellite broadcaster for its market-leading, second generation MPEG-4 AVC HD EN8090 video compression system.



The contract is a continuation of that direct-to-home provider’s deployment of HD content to local markets. The revenue is expected to be recognized in the fourth quarter of 2006 and the first quarter of 2007.


It's for Directv :)

Tandberg Television Receives $8M Order From DirecTV

http://www.tvtechnology.com/dailynews/one.php?id=4504

Tandberg Television has recently received an order worth more than $8 million from DirecTV for its second-generation MPEG-4 AVC HD EN8090 video compression system.


The contract is a continuation of DirecTV's deployment of HD content to local markets. The revenue is expected to be recognized in the fourth quarter of 2006 and the first quarter of 2007.


Tandberg Television offers digital TV solutions including IPTV, HDTV, video-on-demand, advertising on-demand, and interactive TV applications to customers in the Americas, Asia Pacific, Europe, Middle East and Africa. The company is headquartered in the U.K. and has offices in Atlanta and Hong Kong.
 
I have a question about the possibility of TBS joining in on an HD channel. TBS is supposed to have a weekly MLB game on Sunday afternoon plus they are alternating with FOX covering the LCS. I certainly hope the folks at MLB kept the HD part of the broadcast in negotiations. I also hope this is a good sign for other TBS content that would look good in HD (Raymond, College football, etc.) I have not found any information that leads me to believe that TBS will go HD anytime soon. I can hope, though.

TBS is already in HD as a local OTA channel in Atlanta, channel 17, however it is not offered by E* yet. I wish the same thing so I can see Braves in HD, but I am about 150-200 miles from ATL and on a clear clear clear night I can swing the antenna around and pull in TBS OTA and a few others from ATL OTA just fine, but once again it has to be awfully clear outside.

I am hoping for MHD, RaveHD is just reruns of Soundstage.
CMTPure would also be nice, I can name a 1,000 channels I would want but just don't see any of them happening.
 
TBS is already in HD as a local OTA channel in Atlanta, channel 17, however it is not offered by E* yet.

No, it isn't. The only thing in HD on TBS OTA (17.1) was the Braves games, but my understanding is that most (all?) of those games are moving to the Turner sports channel next year. Which is not an OTA channel even here in ATL. So it looks like not much HD Braves action next year. :(
 
TANDBERG Television Unveils Next Generation MPEG-4 AVC HD and SD Encoders

TANDBERG Television is unveiling its next-generation high definition (HD) and standard definition (SD) MPEG-4 AVC encoding solutions at IBC 2006 (Hall 1:461). The move continues the company's market leading momentum in the MPEG-4 AVC arena and brings a step change in digital video distribution by combining the broadest choice of density and enhanced features with the industry's leading picture quality versus performance through bandwidth improvements of up to 50% over currently deployed MPEG-4 AVC units.

TANDBERG Television's next-generation compression platform is being launched simultaneously across its encoding family with the introduction of the new EN8030 MPEG-4 AVC SD and EN8090 MPEG-4 AVC SD/HD ultracompression broadcast encoders, alongside the introduction of new MPEG-4 AVC HD and SD ultracompression encoding modules for the Plex range of high density, multi-channel encoders. The new encoders enable HDTV services to be delivered at data rates below 6Mbits/s, with similar improvements to SD services, and are designed to enable operators to deliver HD and SD multi-channel and single channel services across cable, satellite, telco and terrestrial networks.

The new TANDBERG encoders use a comprehensive tool-set of advanced compression video processing features, combined with new pre-processing techniques. They have a common form-factor to previous units and therefore existing users of TANDBERG Plex and broadcast encoders have a simple upgrade path.

"Based on four years of first-to-market advanced compression experience and over 4,000 MPEG-4 AVC HD and SD encoders commercially deployed, we know that broadcasters and operators need a unique combination of industry leading performance, reliability and choice. With the launch of this new encoding generation, we are continuing our market lead in providing customers with the performance and product features they need on which to confidently build their digital video businesses," says Eric Cooney, President and CEO of TANDBERG Television.

Industry leading performance

The new EN8000 and Plex encoders use TANDBERG's Intelligent Compression Engine (ICE) version 3 and are setting new bandwidth benchmarks thanks to a number of innovative features. These include improved motion estimation processes, single slice video processing architecture, dedicated processing for low resolution encoding of Picture-in-Picture services, and a number of performance boosting features such as Multi-Pass analysis and enhanced video pre-processing which are the basis of 12 new patent applications.

At IBC, TANDBERG Television will be demonstrating ICE3 powered products delivering 6Mbits/s full resolution HD and improvements of up to 50% over currently deployed units. This step change in bit-rate performance represents tangible benefits to broadcasters and telcos.

* For IPTV operators it enables 2 full-resolution HDTV channels over ADSL2+ @ 2km.
* For satellite broadcasters it delivers transponder cost savings and the opportunity to add in more HD channels. For example, a 36MHz transponder with:
* DVB-S2 and QPSK - can fit more than 6 channels of full-resolution HD
* DVB-S2 and 8PSK - can fit more than 8 channels of full-resolution HD

Multi-channel and high density front-runner

TANDBERG Television has designed its next-generation encoders to support the needs of today's digital media service providers through multi-channel capability and high density configurations. Running in HD mode from a single HDTV input, the platform is capable of generating 3 channels:

* the main HD full resolution channel,
* a secondary version of the main channel running up to full SD resolution, allowing operators to internally convert HD content to SD to also deliver their services to SD-only set-top-box consumers
* a third "micro" channel for use in Picture-in-Picture, mosaic, and alternate/multi-view applications.

This multi-channel feature results in the new EN8090 HD MPEG-4 AVC broadcast encoder being able to deliver 1 HD + 1 secondary SD + 1 low resolution PiP service per 1RU, while the high density Plex systems are capable of 12 channels - 4 HD + 4 secondary (up to full SD) + 4 Low resolution (up to SIF / 1/4SD) services - in 1RU.

Flexibility and choice for digital business models

The new TANDBERG EN8000 and Plex encoders provide the right choices of packaging and features to meet the true needs of today's digital video service providers. For high-end DTH satellite service providers and cable operators, the TANDBERG EN8000 broadcast encoders provide the ideal fully featured video head-end solutions with support for 1080i, 720p, constant bit-rate, variable bit-rate and statistical multiplexing support, as well as internal multi-channel audio encoding and audio transcoding abilities such as Dolby Digital stereo and 5.1 multi-channel encoding, Dolby Digital audio transrating, Dolby E to Dolby Digital transcoding, and Dolby to HE-AAC conversion. Moreover, the EN8000 has transport stream (ASI) and IP outputs and is part of the TANDBERG iSIS 8000 IP-based system solution which includes IP multiplexing, multi-platform professional receivers and TANDBERG Reflex(TM), the most widely deployed statistical multiplexer in MPEG-4 AVC SD and HD, all brought together under a single control and management system, nCompass.

Telcos and IPTV service operators often prefer a multi-channel encoding chassis, and also require MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 AVC transcoding functionality as most of the content they source has already been compressed in MPEG-2. The NEBS-certified, telco-designed Plex encoders include both encoding and MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 AVC transcoding solutions to provide telco operators with a multi-purpose product that reduces capital and operating expenditures, and also minimizes rack space and conserves energy. In addition, the Plex product line features stream replication - the ability to take each video stream processed inside the unit and output it across different delivery formats (ASI, IP, ATM), enabling an operator to deliver their service simultaneously across multiple delivery mechanisms, for example cable and DSL services from a single head-end.

A number of TANDBERG Television's existing MPEG-4 AVC customers have already had demonstrations of these ground-breaking new encoders and have confirmed that they deliver industry leading performance. "Sharing this development along the way with our key customers has been a critical part of the development path. They have seen the performance improvements in our EN8000 and Plex encoders and how the form density and feature choices they offer address their different needs. Our customers are excited about including these new encoders as part of their deployments when we start shipping in early Q4 2006," says Roger Bolton, VP of Business Development at TANDBERG Television.
 
Im all for cramming as much as we can on a tp for hd.. but not at a cost of quality. If we can get 6 to 8 up there with the same eye stunning, eye poping candy that was there 2 years ago then im all for it. :)
 
Tandberg claims that they can get "more than 8" full-res HD channels on a single transponder when using 8PSK.

I don't trust that this number is optimizing on image quality. It would be nice if E* used this technology and then put only 6 HD channels per TP in order to get better PQ.

But I wouldn't bet a single dollar on them doing it.

In any case, if this stuff works as advertised, then E* has a lot of space for more HD channels. And D* will not need nearly as many transponders as many thought they would in order to have a capacity of 150 national HD channels.
 
A few questions:

Has anyone figured out if Dish Network is truly using MPEG4?
(Last I heard, the "MPEG4" channels were actually in MPEG2 with MPEG4 headers)

I don't see that Tandberg ever signed a contract to deliver their systems to Dish Network. Has anyone ever seen a press release for MPEG4 delivery for Dish Network?
 
A few questions:

Has anyone figured out if Dish Network is truly using MPEG4?
(Last I heard, the "MPEG4" channels were actually in MPEG2 with MPEG4 headers)

I don't see that Tandberg ever signed a contract to deliver their systems to Dish Network. Has anyone ever seen a press release for MPEG4 delivery for Dish Network?

Actually it should be listed as:

"Last I heard, the "MPEG4" channels were actually in MPEG2 with VIP receiver only flags"

And yes, they are using MPEG4 for the HD LiL's and a few scattered CONUS HD channels.
 
A year ago a Tandberg release stated that Dish was using their MPEG4 encoders. But I have seen nothing that confirms that E* has purchased the newest generation. There are some competitors in that market.
 
I just received this email

I recently sent an email to dish network ceo complaining that they do not offer cinemax hd and that I do not yet receive hd locals and this was the interesting response. ARE NEW HD CHANNELS COMING????

I am sorry for the Cinemax not being presented in HDTV currently. Dish will announce new HD additions starting 1st quarter 2007. Dish will introduce more locals as well as more channels when they become available. I don’t have an exact timeframe when this will be concluded; for that I am sorry. HBO and Cinemax are partners and usually show the same programming from month to month. I would recommend getting HBO; you’ll get the same movies in HD, but, what might be on Cinemax this month will be on HBO the following month. “Does that make sense?” If you have any additional questions please let me know. Thanks for your time!
Frank Barcia

Executive Communications

Echostar Satellite LLC.
 
Sure... Still waiting for all six Star Wars films to come to HBO. Still not showing up in the guide up to 8 days out.

S~
 
It is my understanding that HBO does not in fact make money on the movies they show. It is those series that they show that makes them money.

Of course, that doesn't mean we can't prefer the movies anyway! :p
 

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