New Dish Network Receivers Coming in 2009? How wil Dish Network Handle NTSC turnoff?
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Whydo you think that Dish isincluding all those attenuators with the dual tuner dual output products for. 
Its not an issue.
Its not an issue.
If memory serves TV2 output can also be sent as a cable signal (maybe QAM)? This would solve the problem too.
That said; it would be interesting to see if they include an ATSC modulator as this would make it much easier to send HDTV to TV2 and have a dual HD box.
Cheers,
That said; it would be interesting to see if they include an ATSC modulator as this would make it much easier to send HDTV to TV2 and have a dual HD box.
Cheers,
The analog shutoff does NOT affect Dish. It applies to over-the-air analog signals only. Sure, Dish might include NTSC tuners in their receivers, but that's just a benefit. They're not necessary to receive Dish's service/programming.
No deal
On the tech chat last week this question was asked and answered. They said they couldn't do this due to the fact that the providers wouldn't allow the mto provide a pure digital signal output that could be copied easily.
On the tech chat last week this question was asked and answered. They said they couldn't do this due to the fact that the providers wouldn't allow the mto provide a pure digital signal output that could be copied easily.
Don't count on it. How do you know that the industry will continue to provide hardware to support nonexistant transmissions? No tuner has supported UHF OTA NTSC channel 72 for years.
Perhaps (though I think my TV still scans to 81), but that channel was NEVER used.
If NTSC & ATSC have been integrated into the same chip, there really isn't much reason for the manufacturers to remove it. Also, if a set is "Cable Ready" would it have to include the analog channels (since they are still used by cable)?
Eventually Dish may have to do something. Maybe they will blow off modulated output completely, and provide a cheap STB to act as a remote box.
Whydo you think that Dish isincluding all those attenuators with the dual tuner dual output products for.
Its not an issue.
That doesn't make any sense. If by some chance your remote TV doesn't have an NTSC tuner I don't see how an attenuator is going to help.
Speaking of which, I've seen posts from people with "monitors", i.e. TVs with NO tuners, set up for TV2 usage with a dual-tuner box. They can't use the coaxial (RF) feed to run TV2. You can't "tune" to the channel you pick on the receiver for the 2nd TV. Does the attenuator resolve that ?? I didn't think it did.
They could use RCA, of course, but getting them in the right lengths could be difficult for the average person.
He is aware of that His comment concerned the fact that DISH receivers output NTSC and that televisions with NTSC tuners might become scarce. Personally I think that we will see NTSC tuners for some time to come. But I could be wrong. I also suspect that amny cable systems will use analog for awhile (although ona limited basis) so sets may still have analog cable tuners as well.
Whydo you think that Dish isincluding all those attenuators with the dual tuner dual output products for.
Its not an issue.
What attenuator? I do not believe I receives one with my 622. Perhaps i do not understand
n0qcu is correct. We did some research on this a ways back. TVs equipped with NTSC tuners will be made for many years to come, to facilitate old devices such as VCRs, certain cameras, old video games, etc. There is little to be gained by reducing their reception to channels 3 and 4, and no cost savings to eliminate NTSC entirely. As stated, the chips have both NTSC and ATSC built in.
We can forget the hope that Dish (or anyone) will pump out a non-DRM'd digital signal over coax, making it easy to copy.
We can forget the hope that Dish (or anyone) will pump out a non-DRM'd digital signal over coax, making it easy to copy.
An attenuator lowers the signal strength so that it cannot be "broadcast" outside of your home. You should have received one with your 622. Perhaps the installer didn't install it.
Scott, can you explain what you mean by this ?? The manual says it's for filtering out "stray" UHF signals.
But couldn't a low power ATSC/HDCP modulator eliminate the copying?
I'm assuming that ATSC VHS Recorders and DVR with DVD Burners and/or Hard Disk Drives are licensed to use HDCP which either allows a program to be recorded, recorded once, or not at all.
But then Vern, I'm confused.
Encryption isn't part of the 8VSB spec for ATSC spec. What you're thinking of are the so called "broadcast flags" which I believe the FCC has stricken down.
HDCP is for DVI and HDMI not for ATSC.
Cheers,
