Sorry SandFarmer. I hope they calm down for you next several days.
Thank you, charlesrshell. At least it didn't hammer the box that I was worried about. Now that it has the C(G)UI, I can direct transfer the content to a new machine with the C(G)UI. But no matter what the other HwS will not manually update. It won't even go as far as downloading anymore. Things that make you go Hmmm. Ah all the fun in DISH land. I need some beers.