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I am considering going from cable to Dish and have a few questions. We have 4 tvs in the house (2-HD 2-SD). We primarily use 1 HD (living room) and 1 SD bedroom. I am trying to come up with a plan to reduce our costs and improve our service as the current cable is SD with no DVR. I am considering the AT120 plan and the 722k receiver since having a Hopper and Joeys add a lot to the price every month. I dont care about all the extra features of the Hopper and am fine with having the same programing on multiple TV's. So I thought the 722k with the 2) TV1 outputs going to the 2) HD tvs and the 2) TV2 outputs going to the 2) SD tvs would be the way to go. Is there any diagrams or literature that would show the most efficent way to do this? And would this be something that would be part of the "free installation"? Also, how do you receive the local channels? Is it thru the satellite feed or an antenna? Thanks
 
Sounds like your looking at mirroring to other tv's I am sure others can explain a bit more on the possible mirroring process as I never did mirror my tv's. But to answer you install question, that won't be a basic install don't think a tech would do this kind of install. They would stick with the 722 connecting to one HD and then the second tv being the SD. In regard to locals, double check to see that they are available, and with the 722k you can also add OTA tuner/module

In regard to the 722, its a nice receiver, I have had it in the past......But it's no Hopper :)
 
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The 722k has several outputs which are always active, the home distribution output for sd is a standard coax output so feeding the two sd tv's would be easy by splitting the line (installer may or may not connect both tv's so you may have to wire part of this). HD is a little more complicated depending on your household, most people use HDMI for on HD tv and component to the other HD tv. Which connection to which tv depends on you since this is not part of the standard install. HD locals are again something that depends on your dma. Most are supplied by Dish (you didn't list your dma so this cannot be answered at this point, but by adding the OTA tuner to the k, you would get two more tuners dedicated to OTA only. Again, having this depends on distance and terrain to your local towers, you would need to set this up yourself or you may be able to pay installer extra to do it for you (if you already have OTA, it would only require running line to the 722 and scan the channels in which is very easy.
 
I am considering going from cable to Dish and have a few questions. We have 4 tvs in the house (2-HD 2-SD). We primarily use 1 HD (living room) and 1 SD bedroom. I am trying to come up with a plan to reduce our costs and improve our service as the current cable is SD with no DVR. I am considering the AT120 plan and the 722k receiver since having a Hopper and Joeys add a lot to the price every month. I dont care about all the extra features of the Hopper and am fine with having the same programing on multiple TV's. So I thought the 722k with the 2) TV1 outputs going to the 2) HD tvs and the 2) TV2 outputs going to the 2) SD tvs would be the way to go. Is there any diagrams or literature that would show the most efficent way to do this? And would this be something that would be part of the "free installation"? Also, how do you receive the local channels? Is it thru the satellite feed or an antenna? Thanks

I would suggest a 722 for HD 1 and the 2 SD TV's and a 211 for HD #2 that would give you independent HD pictures on the second HDTV and will only cost you $7/mo. for the additional receiver. The 722 can combine tuner 1 and tuner 2 output on 1 coaxial cable so your SD TV's can actually have a choice of which programming they are watching. Example Tuner 1's output is channel 30 and tuner 2's output is channel 32 so if the SDTV is tuned to channel 30 it watches the program on Tuner 1 and if you change it to channel 32 it is watching the program on Tuner 2. The 211 can tune to any channel you subscribe to without interfering with the 722's programming. The 211 has the option of adding an external Hard Drive and paying a $40 fee creating a DVR out of that box.
All should be covered by basic install.
 
If the 722 is set to combine Tuner1 and Tuner2 on 1 coax for the SD does it change how the HD outputs work on Tuner1? Also what is the range for the RF remotes? The second HD tv is upstairs in a bonus room and we use it like a movie room. So we are usually only using 1 HD at a time unless its a football game and both tv's would stay on the same channel. Do both of the outputs have access to the DVR?
 
If the 722 is set to combine Tuner1 and Tuner2 on 1 coax for the SD does it change how the HD outputs work on Tuner1? Also what is the range for the RF remotes? The second HD tv is upstairs in a bonus room and we use it like a movie room. So we are usually only using 1 HD at a time unless its a football game and both tv's would stay on the same channel. Do both of the outputs have access to the DVR?

Remote 2 is a UHF remote nominally it is good for 150ft. subject to wall construction. Remote 1 for Tuner 1 is an IR ( infra red ) remote for use in the room where the receiver is. Coax outputs are SD only the HD is delivered on HDMI or component cables. Running either HDMI or component cables from the first floor to the upstairs bonus room could be a problem, a good reason to consider the 211. The signal from the satellite dish comes in on a coax that you probably already have the receiver processes the HD signal then a short HDMI cable connects the receiver to the TV. Cable can send HD over coax by using QAM signals neither DISH nor Directv use this broadcast method.
 
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Can I have multiple RF remotes?

Sounds like they send the locals via the satellite feed. For my location I am able to get a few more than they list with an antenna so I would probably add an additional OTA antenna. Would it connect to the receiver and some how be distrubted out to the tv's?

I was thinknig that short component cables from the receiver in the living room wold be easiest and fish a single long HDMI cable to the bonus room.

And could I also connect the coax from TV2 to the HD tv in the bonus room and be able to switch between HD programming and SD programing? I know the picture wont be clear as I currently have the HD tv's on standard analog cable with the only HD channels being the local ones that they have to give me.
 
Can I have multiple RF remotes?

Sounds like they send the locals via the satellite feed. For my location I am able to get a few more than they list with an antenna so I would probably add an additional OTA antenna. Would it connect to the receiver and some how be distrubted out to the tv's?

I was thinknig that short component cables from the receiver in the living room wold be easiest and fish a single long HDMI cable to the bonus room.

And could I also connect the coax from TV2 to the HD tv in the bonus room and be able to switch between HD programming and SD programing? I know the picture wont be clear as I currently have the HD tv's on standard analog cable with the only HD channels being the local ones that they have to give me.
Yes you can purchase an additional UHF remote
Yes you can connect the coax but why would you the same programming is on the coax and HDMI?
Yes you can purchase a long HDMI cable and pay the installer to run it or you can run it yourself. If you run it yourself get it done before the installer arrives he isn't going to want to wait for you.
Yes you can connect an OTA to the receiver but a 722K requires you to purchase an additional module to receive OTA.
I still think $84/yr. for additional receiver fees (211) would be simpler and cheaper than your additional plans.
 
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Where is the best place to order Dish? The main website? And is there any additional unpublished discounts or special packages available?
 
Contact a DIRT team member on this forum. (Dish Internet Response Team)

They can be found on the main forum pages ant the bottom and are displayed in RED.
 
The OTA tuner integrates right into the guide for all the channels, designated by a different color. You pick the ota channels and record them just as you would the satellite channels. The upsides to paying the $7 a month for a 211 receiver in addition to the 722 is an easy way to get HD in another room, more importantly an additional tuner, and maybe even more importantly a back-up should one or the other receiver fail.
Keep in mind there is no 1st receiver fee, (but there is a DVR fee, not per receiver only per account.) So the only receiver fee you would be paying is the $7 for the 211.
 
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I see talk on receiver failure.How often does this happen? How does dish handle it if you are under the 24 month commitment?
 
If there is a problem with a leased receiver, we will replaced it for you. Having the Protection Plan on the account provides shipping at no charge. With all electronics, some will last a long time while others can fail. Thanks.

I see talk on receiver failure.How often does this happen? How does dish handle it if you are under the 24 month commitment?
 
Hi Ray, A question I had also posted "Where is the best place to order Dish? The main website? And is there any additional unpublished discounts or special packages available?". My brother has Dish and I see that there is some type of referal discount, any other deals?
 
You can call our 800 number and speak with a sales person. Be sure your brother provides you a referral number that is associated with his account and provide this number when you setup your account, that way you and your brother will receiver the referral credits. Here is a link with information about the promotion: http://www.dish.com/customerservice/referral/friendsandfamily/?KBID=01DIRWEB&WT.svl=promos-button. Please let me know if you have additional questions. Thanks.

Hi Ray, A question I had also posted "Where is the best place to order Dish? The main website? And is there any additional unpublished discounts or special packages available?". My brother has Dish and I see that there is some type of referal discount, any other deals?
 
Also what are the limits to where the dish can be mounted? I do not want to attach it to the house and have seen where they are mounted on a short pole next to the house. I have a unused utility pole about 75' from the house where the cable attaches and was wondering if I could use this. The house used to have overhead service but was changed to underground utilities about 10 years ago and they left the pole. The property is wide open with no trees on that side (west) of the property.
 
The technician will check for the line-of-sight to determine the best location for the dish. You can request a pole mount. I'm not sure about the use of a utility pole as mounting the dish to the pole may pose an issue but you can ask the technician when he comes to your home for the installation. Thanks.

Also what are the limits to where the dish can be mounted? I do not want to attach it to the house and have seen where they are mounted on a short pole next to the house. I have a unused utility pole about 75' from the house where the cable attaches and was wondering if I could use this. The house used to have overhead service but was changed to underground utilities about 10 years ago and they left the pole. The property is wide open with no trees on that side (west) of the property.
 

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