Need help for installation

[lmmau]

Hello,

I am a newbie on fta and I want to get the right installation. I maried lately a Moroccan women and we would like to get Moroccan tv.

We live at 45.5832 degree latitude -71.5836 longitude we would like to be able to receive Nile Sat, Hotbird, Astra, Intel Sat, Arab sat...

From your point of view is this possible? If so can someone tell me all the equipment it would take. Or if there are some satellite closer to us with arab programmation like al jazira etc... What are the possibilities. We would prefer to get the channels right from those satellites because a lot of channels are free from them without having to hack them, thing that we do not want to get into...

Since I do not know nothing about fta and that I am a french speaker I would ask you to be simple in the explinations.

Thank you so much for for your attention and have a nice day!

lmmau

 

[Cadsulfide]

Welcome!
Visit lyngsat.com for maps and channel information
Also look at "the List" on this site for birds you can see in N America

 

[lmmau]

Thank you

Thank you for the answer and welcoming.

Can you now tell me what is the difference between C band and KU band?

Also in the list some of the birds are in red encrypted I think what this means?

The list includes birds that you can receive with 31" and 1.2 meter dish if you have a larger dish can you see birds that they are far away such as Nile Sat, Hotbird, Astra, Intel Sat, Arab sat...?

Many thanks again!

lmmau

 

[Cadsulfide]

C band is ~4-5 Ghz requires a Big Dish KU band is ~11-12 Ghz requires a 36" min dish

All the satellites are in orbit 2000 miles above the equator, you need to be able to "see" them to get a signal. Lyngsat has coverage maps that will show how strong the signal is for a given geographic area. You may be able to see some of the european sats from Maine.

 

[Tron]

The satellites you are referencing (except for some Intelsats over the Atlantic) have a footprint that only covers Europe and/or the Middle East, so none of them can be seen from North America (in fact, they are below the horizon).

In The List, red means an encrypted channel.

 

[lmmau]

Thank you very much to both of you for the answers.

Why not a couple of other questions. About the C and Ku band is it important to have a special receiver for each of them? Same thing for the dish and the head does it need a special equipment for each of them the C and Ku?

Many thanks again for your kindness!

lmmau

 

[Lak7]

About the C and Ku band is it important to have a special receiver for each of them?

Any FTA receiver will do C and Ku

Same thing for the dish and the head does it need a special equipment for each of them the C and Ku?

Yes. C Band requires a Large Dish usually 6ft or more. But you can get both C & Ku on a Big Dish.
Each need there own LNB, however there are a couple of Combo units out there.

 

[toucan-man]

Immau,

France Telecom's GlobeCast has Morocco 2M television, and Radio 2M on Galaxy 19. These are Ku band, just need a 36" dish and a basic receiver. Both are free-to-air, and programming is in Arabic and French. There are many other free Arabic channels on Galaxy 19.

 

[jayelem]

Hello,

I am a newbie on fta and I want to get the right installation. I maried lately a Moroccan women and we would like to get Moroccan tv.

We live at 45.5832 degree latitude -71.5836 longitude

lmmau

You can get a couple Moroccan channels FTA from your location in Quebec.
You will be perfectly fine using a 90cm dish stationary but with a motor you will be able to enjoy more channels from different satellites.

You have 2 stations available if not more.
97.0 west Galaxy 19 .
Channels available
2M Monde
Al Maghribya

 

[delta_charlie]

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All the satellites are in orbit 2000 miles above the equator, you need to be able to "see" them to get a signal. Lyngsat has coverage maps that will show how strong the signal is for a given geographic area. You may be able to see some of the european sats from Maine.

Hi Cadsulfide and the group, I believe the geostationary orbit satellites are a bit higher then 2000 miles. 22236 to be exact. They are way up there and that is why we have to use high gain dishes to receive a signal. That is also why some of the satellites can have a huge footprint like 58 west. Check out the C-band foot print of this bird, covers north and south America and Europe!

Later, DC

 

[Mr Tony]

possibly he forgot a 2

 

[lmmau]

...Each need there own LNB, however there are a couple of Combo units out there.

Do you mean that C lnb could not receive Ku band, just want to be sure I do understand well.

...They are way up there and that is why we have to use high gain dishes to receive a signal...

Later, DC

By high gain you mean larger dish? I have read that there where a lot of lnb's out there. What do I have to check to be sure to buy the right one. I expect buying a 39 inches dish and a motor. Hopefully I would like to receive Galaxy 25 at 93.1. If it is enough strong I should be able to receive many others.

About the receiver what would be good and easy to manipulate for a newbie like me. I do not need sophisticated thing but I want some quality. We already have a threestar 7007 that my wife brought from Morocco but unfortunatly it is settle on PAL and we are not able to put it on NTSC even if the adjustement is in, we could not access the menue to do so.

Thank you again for your help everyone.

lmmau

 

[Lak7]

Do you mean that C lnb could not receive Ku band, just want to be sure I do understand well.

Yes, and a Ku LNB can not receive C Band

I expect buying a 39 inches dish and a motor. Hopefully I would like to receive Galaxy 25 at 93.1.

That should be plenty, a 36" should work too.

About the receiver what would be good and easy to manipulate for a newbie like me.

Depends on what features you want, like HighDef or PVR

 

[lmmau]

What is the difference between linear and circular signal? Is it better to have an lnb that do both?

As for the receiver high definition is an obligation is not it?

Many thanks again!

lmmau

 

[phlatwound]

What is the difference between linear and circular signal? Is it better to have an lnb that do both?

As for the receiver high definition is an obligation is not it?

Many thanks again!

lmmau

I've attached a pic that shows the difference between circ & lin signals.

Most of the FTA sats that are viewable from your location (Quebec) only use linear, the DBS (Dish, DirecTv, etc.) sats typically use circular. So, for true FTA viewing, a linear LNBF will get most of what's up there.

You need a HD receiver to receive FTA HD signals, and a HD receiver will also get most FTA SD signals (DVB-S2 and 4:2:2 are another story).

 

[lmmau]

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Most of the FTA sats that are viewable from your location (Quebec) only use linear, the DBS (Dish, DirecTv, etc.) sats typically use circular. So, for true FTA viewing, a linear LNBF will get most of what's up there.

You need a HD receiver to receive FTA HD signals, and a HD receiver will also get most FTA SD signals (DVB-S2 and 4:2:2 are another story).

I am afraid that I do not understand very good here. Galaxy 25, 19 and so on are linear, Bell expressvu and others are circular? How do I know wich one is wich?

What are SD signal compare to HD?

Thank you again for your patience!

lmmau

 

[Lak7]

I am afraid that I do not understand very good here....How do I know which one is which?

A Rule of Thumb: EchoStar, DirecTV, and Nimiq Sats are Circular, the rest are Linear.

Go to:
North & South America - LyngSat
Click on a Sat, the look at the first column: "Freq TP" if you see:
"H"orizontal or "V"ertical is Linear
"L"eft or "R"ight is Circular

What are SD signal compare to HD?

You can't actually tell, for sure, by the signal, what is HD vs. SD.
Lyngsat will give you a clue for some TPs, look in the "System Encryption" Column for HD

 

[lmmau]

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Go to:
North & South America - LyngSat
Click on a Sat, the look at the first column: "Freq TP" if you see:
"H"orizontal or "V"ertical is Linear
"L"eft or "R"ight is Circular


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When you see Freq TP and a number besides it what is the meaning of the number?

On lyngsat for certain satellites it is written "feeds" under provider name what does that means?

On lyngsat for certain satellites it is written [Intelsat test card] what does that means?

When written under encrytption it is written NTSC what does that means?

Thank you again, you know in a couple of days I have lerarned a lot with the tips your are giving me, thank you all!

lmmau

 

[14karat]

[Intelsat test card] just means a test screen (normally color bars or something)
NTSC is an analog transmission signal read more: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC"]NTSC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/FileAL-NTSC-SECAM.svg" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/PAL-NTSC-SECAM.svg/300px-PAL-NTSC-SECAM.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/0/0d/PAL-NTSC-SECAM.svg/300px-PAL-NTSC-SECAM.svg.png[/ame]
Feeds just means that that particular transponder is used for wildfeeds (like sports or news feeds - could be anything and none of it is scheduled or announced.)
The transponder (TP) is a frequency like 7200 along with H, V (horizontal or vertical) or R, L (right or left) polarity. The TP number as in 12, 14, etc. is just a number assigned to that particular frequency (typically used by the older analog and 4DTV boxes) a lot like the analog TV channels (2-13 VHF or 14-69 UHF)

 

[Cadsulfide]

What is the difference between linear and circular signal? Is it better to have an lnb that do both?

As for the receiver high definition is an obligation is not it?

Many thanks again!

lmmau

Look at the FTA starter systems that Sadoun and other sponsers have. HD is not a requirement, Standard Definition TV will still be with us for quite a while. A standard linear lnb will get you 100's of channels with a motorized setup, dozens with a fixed setup on say 97W or 123W. Only a few available on circular without a subscription. Once you get started, you can add to the system as any good FTA reciever will work with most any dish(es) and lnb(s).