Oh I forgot to add ... if your TV is a 27" CRT ... well you may NOT see it. I have a 55" RPTV ... and it is night and day. This just illustrates how many factors there really are and signal strength, contunity and quality all play a part.
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At 6ft
At 6ft the gauge size makes little difference. What you are talking about is called skin effect. The electrical current travels on the skin. The difference between different types of metal is also negligible. The use of of silver and gold is for better conduction at the final point of attachment. In fact the gold is a little better only because it doesn't corrode. The silver is actually a better conductor but does have some problems with developing a non conductive layer when exposed to moisture or "smoke". The shielding provided only works for high frequencies and not low frequencies such as AC power lines. Routing the cables so they don't travel par allell is just as important as any type of shielding. Also in digital it is only necessary to keep the lines away from the power supplies. Reason is that most power supplies now have switching circuits in them. Switching circuits are on-off which can mimic the 0/1"s which is on /off in a digital circuit. The proof that the manufacturer's use are usually in house produced to come to the conclusion that they are looking to get. Now if you want to believe the salesman and pay the extra $$ go ahead I've at least given you the thumbnail sketch of electrical engineering 101.slacker9876 said:
...and the product you reccomend since we know "bayzbol" will excced the standard 6' length?whatchel1 said:
whatchel, I am glad to see all you did was reinforce the points I made above. I am NOT here to argue with you, I am here to help out another member ... this should be the final objective. In light of this fact...
MY MONSTER CABLE EXPERIENCE: I had recently purchased various new entry level consumer-grade products. They were a 16:9 Samsung RTPV, Yamaha RX-V650, Hughes H68 (was that it? don't remember) and a Denon DVD-1910. I was unhappy with the picture quality of my new home theater and asked what should I do to improve the quality. I purchased various Monster Cables for interconnection at the advice of the salesperson. At the register, $400 later for various cables, I was quite sticker shocked, I specifically told the salesman "Don't spend your commission, odds are these will be back before the end of the night." I was right, kind of ... I kept and am still using ,three 1m, series 2 component video cables, one 2m component video cable, 1 coax .5m audio cable. 5 cables, roughly $225 worth. I returned all the SPDIF cables as there was no difference, that was audible to me. I have also purchased the monster product for my Xbox (since then). WHAT I SAW (SEE) WITH MY OWN EYES: far superior color saturation, "fluttering", as I would call it is eliminated, especially in fast moving scenes (Hockey). Not that much right? WRONG! My Xbox colors are amazing, my satellite receivers (HR10-250 & ViP211) have the best color of anyone I know. So, one of two things has happend. I have gone crazy and need to be locked up (as do my wife, son, neighbor (Ron) & dad) or my picture was improved. I am going with the latter.
That is why I told him try cable A, then try cable B ... use the one that looks the best ... then post back so the rest of us know what your experience was.
Too easy I guess.
MY MONSTER CABLE EXPERIENCE: I had recently purchased various new entry level consumer-grade products. They were a 16:9 Samsung RTPV, Yamaha RX-V650, Hughes H68 (was that it? don't remember) and a Denon DVD-1910. I was unhappy with the picture quality of my new home theater and asked what should I do to improve the quality. I purchased various Monster Cables for interconnection at the advice of the salesperson. At the register, $400 later for various cables, I was quite sticker shocked, I specifically told the salesman "Don't spend your commission, odds are these will be back before the end of the night." I was right, kind of ... I kept and am still using ,three 1m, series 2 component video cables, one 2m component video cable, 1 coax .5m audio cable. 5 cables, roughly $225 worth. I returned all the SPDIF cables as there was no difference, that was audible to me. I have also purchased the monster product for my Xbox (since then). WHAT I SAW (SEE) WITH MY OWN EYES: far superior color saturation, "fluttering", as I would call it is eliminated, especially in fast moving scenes (Hockey). Not that much right? WRONG! My Xbox colors are amazing, my satellite receivers (HR10-250 & ViP211) have the best color of anyone I know. So, one of two things has happend. I have gone crazy and need to be locked up (as do my wife, son, neighbor (Ron) & dad) or my picture was improved. I am going with the latter.
That is why I told him try cable A, then try cable B ... use the one that looks the best ... then post back so the rest of us know what your experience was.
Too easy I guess.
Not recommending a product
Not recommending a product. Just telling you that ultra expensive cables are a rip off that are sold to make the manufacturer and the sales force $$. I personally go w/ the low/mid price. Reason is that the construction quality is usually good. The cheapest are just that. Example for speaker cable I go for 12 AWG or 10 for longer runs. Oxygen free copper is nice because it shows quality control. Not that the oxygen changes conduction but not having it will reduce the chances of deterioration over time. Don't use aluminum with copper these react to each other and cause a major conduction problem over time. For RG-6 (coax) quad shielding there is no choice of center conductor it will be steel covered w/ copper. I just don't know of any RG-6 that uses a copper center conductor because it is to soft and breaks to easily when pulled.slacker9876 said:
slacker9876 said:
Thanks for suggestions and ideas. By the tone of some of the responses, I guess I am stupid for asking these type of questions. Sorry, cable knowledge is not one of my strengths. I have gotten a variety of suggestions from people at the stores, just like in this thread. I guess I will just take the chance and spend over $100 on some video/audio cables. The cables I have right now have 3 for video and 2 for audio. I definitely need close to 12 feet. Hopefully, I can find that for less than $150.
Without "diggin" I gotta say ... monstercables have nitrogen injected dielectric, stranded SOLID copper (no steel, tin or other metallurgical anomalies) and their medium end line (S3) is certified by the ISF. Now since the ISF is all about the NTSC & ATSC standard ... they know what they are talking about. I HATE spending HT money that is not toy related, cables are not toys and when I may buy an HD-DVD player for the price of my cables ... how bad could they be? I'll be the first to admit, I am an enthusiast, not a professional, needless to say I am deeply enthused with the result.whatchel1 said:
Check out my avatar and signature ... If anyone knows the "a sucker that is born every minute" ... odds are I have taken money from them. 
LMAO ... and friviously spent it on MonsterCable!!!!
LMAO ... and friviously spent it on MonsterCable!!!!
slacker9876 said:
See post #8 of this thread where I did exactly that
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost.php?p=686223&postcount=8
If you believe the cost of Monster cables is worth it that is on you but I am not going to call you a jackass, it is your money spend it however you want
No need for name calling, next time read the thread before calling me names
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Jordan420, Since you chose to flame me with " :yikes :haha :down " I simply responded in kind.
Post #8 is completely unrelated post #11, which is the one I quoted. Post #11 is also not on topic of the thread. I did not call you a name (i.e., Carl, John, Mark, etc.) I called you an animal, they are not the same just as monoprice cables are not the same as monstercable. The monoprice cables are also not solid copper and are comprised of three metals known to chemically react poorly with each other.
Bayzbol is attempting to gain some "eye-popping" imagery like he sees in the retail stores and will probably try MC, MP and the box cables. I have asked that he post the real world result here. I did explain to him that box retailers (BB, CC) do not have cable or satellite, rather their equipment is fed from computer hard disks and that OTA will be the only way he will get close the that quality, which judging from the other Chicagolanders posts, he is hosed for NBC OTA unless he has "ideal circumstances."
So ... let's end the flaming and move on to helping our co-member.
:yikes :haha :down " I simply responded in kind.Post #8 is completely unrelated post #11, which is the one I quoted. Post #11 is also not on topic of the thread. I did not call you a name (i.e., Carl, John, Mark, etc.) I called you an animal, they are not the same just as monoprice cables are not the same as monstercable. The monoprice cables are also not solid copper and are comprised of three metals known to chemically react poorly with each other.
Bayzbol is attempting to gain some "eye-popping" imagery like he sees in the retail stores and will probably try MC, MP and the box cables. I have asked that he post the real world result here. I did explain to him that box retailers (BB, CC) do not have cable or satellite, rather their equipment is fed from computer hard disks and that OTA will be the only way he will get close the that quality, which judging from the other Chicagolanders posts, he is hosed for NBC OTA unless he has "ideal circumstances."
So ... let's end the flaming and move on to helping our co-member.
You obviously either have not visited a big box retailer lately or are not in a very competitive market. All the big box retailers around here have cable, dish and directv hooked up so everyone can compare the hd picture and choose for themselves what looks best on the tv's they are considering. Other than BB or Radioshack nobody will recommend Monster Cables, around here unless the customer asks about them. If you are happy with them I am glad, I have some and never use them anymore. Unless I am in a bind or need hdmi or something like that, I usually just make my own.
Here in Loveland ... we have WalMart. There is a BB, CC & UE in Fort Collins, but why go or buy there when I can do it from the couchosu1991 said:
I KNOW what I need 
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