I called Dish twice yesterday to see what the CSR's were saying. Come to find out, neither time did the CSR even know about the MTV channels or BBC World. I explained that the channels were indeed up there and when I switched to all channels, they are in the guide, but show in red, so I can not view them. The CSR's knew nothing of the channels, so unless they know about them, how can they offer them to the public? The first CSR told me that he figured that the channels would be in AT250 in time, as that pack has all of the new basic channels when added. That would be my guess too. But it is odd to think about any channel Dish would get, that anyone could not subscribe to from any pack. Like if I wanted a Latino pack, I could have it added to AT250. That thought of having to go to Flex and then add it, makes no sense. I have no plans to move from AT250 at this time as I am happy with the lineup. The Flex pack does have one advantage as there are no sports in the pack. But by the time I would add everything that is in AT250, I would spend more money and have less channels. Keep up the phone call to Dish. We should have these basic channels without jumping through hoops. Direct TV as well as Charter sure does not sell BBC World like that.