Moving to Houston - Have a Box Under my Parents (in NY) - Will it Work Here?

[ashishnarang]

Hi all,

Please Help. I until recently lived with my folks in NY, and had a Dish 311 (SD) Box in my room. I am now in Houston for School. I bought my box and its Dish Card with me. The folks have 3 other boxes at home in NY, and a decent package.

1) Can I pay an installer to put up a Dish where I am in Houston and will it work with the 311 here in Houston? I have no problem buying the dish upfront and paying the installer for installation up front. When I connect the 311 box from NY, will it work? We get local channels in NY, will I get the Houston Locals?

2) If my idea above will work here in Houston, would I be able to upgrade to an HD box, since I am getting a new flat panel? Can I buy one off of craigslist here in Houston for full price? I would no longer have use for the old model 311, so would i simply put the card for the 311 into the new HD box, or would I call dish and give them the 311's smartcard number and tell them to deactivate that and then ask them to activate the new smartcard that the HD box comes with?

3) I understand this may violate Dish's Terms, again, this thread is just for education and I have no intent to cheat Dish. My other option in this apartment complex is ATT UVerse, which is you know, sh!tty. I would like to do Dish for TV and Clear 4G for internet if possible.


thanks!!

 

[MikeD-C05]

It might work but you will get NO locals from New York. You are not within your spotbeam for them. Also your parents might get a call from DISH about the non calling in receiver you have in Houston. This will cause DISH to cut off the offending receiver, or receivers if the Audit team is involved. You would be better off actually having an account in your own name, or your parents having a second account for you in their name. Then you could be able to get an Hd dvr or regular hd receiver ,but you would be committed for 24 months. I wouldn't risk doing the "stacking thing" as it is illegal big time. It is not the same as "moving" to get nearby dma's locals. "Moving" to get another nearby city's locals is still considered kind of illegal, but the rule is DISH can't "knowingly" sell you out of area locals. You don't tell them the truth and they won't ask. But stacking receivers like you want to do , can get your whole account turned off except one receiver and they won't reactivate those receivers that you had before: EVER. Especially if the audit team is involved. Play it safe and go the new account route.

 

[Tampa8]

What you are proposing is probably theft of service. Even though you are paying for that receiver, the theft is not paying a regular subscription that is required.

 

[Dishman1978]

Upgrade the 311 to a 722, get a sling adapter and connect the reciever to your parents internet connection, then enjoy thier service thru your internet while in college. Problem solved.

 

[Juan]

It might work but you will get NO locals from New York. You are not within your spotbeam for them. Also your parents might get a call from DISH about the non calling in receiver you have in Houston. This will cause DISH to cut off the offending receiver, or receivers if the Audit team is involved. You would be better off actually having an account in your own name, or your parents having a second account for you in their name. Then you could be able to get an Hd dvr or regular hd receiver ,but you would be committed for 24 months. I wouldn't risk doing the "stacking thing" as it is illegal big time. It is not the same as "moving" to get nearby dma's locals. "Moving" to get another nearby city's locals is still considered kind of illegal, but the rule is DISH can't "knowingly" sell you out of area locals. You don't tell them the truth and they won't ask. But stacking receivers like you want to do , can get your whole account turned off except one receiver and they won't reactivate those receivers that you had before: EVER. Especially if the audit team is involved. Play it safe and go the new account route.

cept for channels 9 and 11 which are on CONUS SD (The superstation versions are included in NY locals)

 

[MikeD-C05]

cept for channels 9 and 11 which are on CONUS SD (The superstation versions are included in NY locals)

Okay. I didn't know that they were getting super station versions on those two.

 

[ashishnarang]

Guys how does the receiver call in? Our receivers are not connected via phone line to dish net, just have the coax wire from satellite going in to them. I would want the houston locals any way.
So i ask again for curiosity, how does dish know where the boxes are geographically. Thanks!

 

[Bobby]

If you have several boxes and none of them are plugged in, either telephone or internet, the Dish Audit Team, AKA Nazis, will eventually call the telephone number of record and make the phone answerer go through steps at each box. When they are unable to give the correct answers on the box in Houston, they will shut off all receivers, except the primary, permanently.

To answer another question that you had, you would be unable to swap cards between receivers. They are married to a single receiver.

So, it would be best for you to just get your own account. Have you spoken with your apartment complex managers about installing a satellite system?

 

[Mr Tony]

actually if you are on western arc (110/119) NY Big 4 in SD are CONUS along with WPIX & WWOR. Since you have a 311 that would be the easiest way
SatelliteGuys.US_TheList - Dish Network New York, NY

 

[Jim5506]

But you really should sign up for your own Dish account, now that you're out of the house, time to strike out on your own.

Dish has really good deals for new subs, free install, free HD DVR receivers discounted programming - look into it.

 

[whatchel1]

What Jim said. You will be in Houston for more than 2 yrs so just get your own acct. The way you are asking about doing things is know as account stacking. That could really screw things up for you & your parents.

 

[Hall]

Guys how does the receiver call in? Our receivers are not connected via phone line to dish net, just have the coax wire from satellite going in to them.

Four receivers on the account, none connected via phone ? It's just a matter of time before Dish checks on that account... and when they do, as noted multiple times, your parents will have to PROVE they're looking at a screen from all four receivers and read off a 'number'.

So i ask again for curiosity, how does dish know where the boxes are geographically. Thanks!

It doesn't know where it is. It only knows what satellite/transponder it can "see". For all practical matters, you won't get NY locals (except 1-2 channels that are also "super stations". You won't get Houston locals because your smart card won't be programmed to authorize them.

 

[pabeader]

in fact. since he now has the receiver with him, they might be in trouble when the Nazis call.

 

[Hall]

Currently it's not "online" though. Can Dish tell that ? If they can, maybe they won't ask about it. His parents need to know NOW that if Dish were to call, their response about that 4th receiver is that "it's not hooked up and is on a shelf in the garage". Of course, this is all just "for educational purposes only", so no need to worry.

 

[pabeader]

"active" or not doesn't matter. what matters is if Dish 'thinks' it's active. if you are paying for it, it's active.

 

[whatchel1]

"active" or not doesn't matter. what matters is if Dish 'thinks' it's active. if you are paying for it, it's active.

Like I said he needs to send it back home. And they need to get rid of it.

 

[Pete Ratowski]

Has Dish changed its' policy. Back in 1997, Charlie told us on one of his chats that if you had a mountain home or a beach house that you could take your receiver with you when you left town for your vacation home. He said to buy another dish (portable or permanent to use when gone) and enjoy your Dish programming. He also said that if you had a kid with a receiver in his bedroom at home that the kid good take it with him to college. My son took his receiver back and forth to dental school for four years. He used it in his bedroom when at home and at the University of Florida while in Gainesville. He even took it down to the swamps of the Everglades when he was a dental student and interning in a migrant camp. We also had a portable Dish stand that I built out of PVC pipe. That October, all his classmates enjoyed the World Series and NFL with the distant stations that Charley was selling at the time. We didn't have locals back then only NYC and LA and the Superstations that had all the baseball, hockey, and basketball from NYC, Chicago, Boston, LA, and Denver. That was before regional sports networks. THOSE WERE REALLY THE GOOD OLE DAYS! We were not stealing satellite service cause Charley told us on his chat how to do it and Charley sold more service by allowing his customers to do this. Back then DirectTV had to be plugged into the phone line and Dish did not. Has the policy changed?

 

[MikeD-C05]

YES.

 

[Slamminc11]

Has Dish changed its' policy. Back in 1997, Charlie told us on one of his chats that if you had a mountain home or a beach house that you could take your receiver with you when you left town for your vacation home. He said to buy another dish (portable or permanent to use when gone) and enjoy your Dish programming. He also said that if you had a kid with a receiver in his bedroom at home that the kid good take it with him to college. My son took his receiver back and forth to dental school for four years. He used it in his bedroom when at home and at the University of Florida while in Gainesville. He even took it down to the swamps of the Everglades when he was a dental student and interning in a migrant camp. We also had a portable Dish stand that I built out of PVC pipe. That October, all his classmates enjoyed the World Series and NFL with the distant stations that Charley was selling at the time. We didn't have locals back then only NYC and LA and the Superstations that had all the baseball, hockey, and basketball from NYC, Chicago, Boston, LA, and Denver. That was before regional sports networks. THOSE WERE REALLY THE GOOD OLE DAYS! We were not stealing satellite service cause Charley told us on his chat how to do it and Charley sold more service by allowing his customers to do this. Back then DirectTV had to be plugged into the phone line and Dish did not. Has the policy changed?

no, things don't change in 14 years in the television business...
It continues to amaze me that people would bring this up even though it has been stated over and over here and other places that it is no longer the policy. I am willing to bet that most of the "policies" that were in place in 1997 have changed or been tweaked over the last 14 years both at Dish and Direct, along with comcast, Time Warner, etc, and people move on...
But people keep clinging on this one, something Charlie said in a chat 14 years ago...

 

[navychop]

I used to carry a 301 when we went RVing, under that policy. Stopped doing that. And the policy, like my 301, is long gone.