Menu and Guide Does not fit the TV

[patmurphey]

I claim this is a mistake by the channel provider, and there should be no such option as "overscan" for a digital TV. They (the channel provider) are converting the entire 525 line analog presentation into 480 digital, rather than just taking the picture portion which is already 480 scan lines IIRC.

It is not just the channel provider and is not an HD problem. It is also the TV manufacturers that set their TVs to overscan as the default. With pixel for pixel (the best setting) on a 1080p set you will see occasional artifacts from supplemental signals on the edge, but rarely on anything but ads. With a 720p set the Dish option is handy for reducing the overscan.

 

[navychop]

Thank you lucky! I thought I was going crazy!

Well, um, now that you bring it up, um, err, .......

I guess I'm cut off now.

 

[Bobby]

Well, um, now that you bring it up, um, err, .......

I guess I'm cut off now.

No beer for YOU!!!

 

[3HaloODST]

No beer for YOU!!!

More beer for me !

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[Dan in VA]

So I found where I can turn overscan off in the service menu. I didn't notice a difference in quality, but did notice the picture did get smaller. I know I could fix that from the service menu but I decided to switch it back to overscan.

 

[DishSubLA]

So I found where I can turn over-scan off in the service menu. I didn't notice a difference in quality, but did notice the picture did get smaller. I know I could fix that from the service menu but I decided to switch it back to over-scan.

Interesting. I know there are some who may not appreciate the difference, but I can tell you that when I got a new HDTV for the living room, the picture was disappointing. By golly, gee, I tried everything, and I just couldn't get it to look as GREAT as it should. I found it a bit blurry, and then in a fleeting moment in my head the phrase looks like a zoomed image---BINGO!!! I had totally forgotten about over-scan. Yep, went right into the HDTV menu and put the thing in the full pixel (pixel for pixel match), and all of a sudden, it looked PROPER and SHARP. The PQ was beautiful. However, seeing it shrink a bit, does kind of hit you, so I looked at it back and forth and for fun left it on over-scan for a few hours and HATED it. Put it back on full pixel and it did shrink, but it looked sharper. I am a pixel for pixel person, and quickly got over the slightly smaller picture. There are a lot of people in my family who just wouldn't care or notice that much, but for some of us it is noticeable and makes all the difference in the world.

 

[Hall]

Change it, turn the TV off, forget that you changed anything, and walk away...

 

[DishSubLA]

Change it, turn the TV off, forget that you changed anything, and walk away...

And I would still find it a troubling PQ. This is a Princess and the Pea situation. I am someone who notices that pea underneath all the mattress, and I continue to ASTOUND my family when I find a PQ or audio that just insn't right, and start adjusting THEIR TV's and audio, while they say "what's wrong," and "sounds and looks good to me," only to have them say, "YEAH! That is better!" or "Now that I see the difference." This is why they let fiddle with their electronics, but the way. It isn't always dramatic, they do admit to seeing a difference for the better. They would have been happy the way it was, but since I got it to look or sounder better, they want it left the new and improved way after I've fiddled with it. .

 

[Dan in VA]

Interesting. I know there are some who may not appreciate the difference, but I can tell you that when I got a new HDTV for the living room, the picture was disappointing. By golly, gee, I tried everything, and I just couldn't get it to look as GREAT as it should. I found it a bit blurry, and then in a fleeting moment in my head the phrase looks like a zoomed image---BINGO!!! I had totally forgotten about over-scan. Yep, went right into the HDTV menu and put the thing in the full pixel (pixel for pixel match), and all of a sudden, it looked PROPER and SHARP. The PQ was beautiful. However, seeing it shrink a bit, does kind of hit you, so I looked at it back and forth and for fun left it on over-scan for a few hours and HATED it. Put it back on full pixel and it did shrink, but it looked sharper. I am a pixel for pixel person, and quickly got over the slightly smaller picture. There are a lot of people in my family who just wouldn't care or notice that much, but for some of us it is noticeable and makes all the difference in the world.

I was watching football but couldn't tell a difference. Also even though you can tell it got smaller it was only a fraction of an inch.

 

[DishSubLA]

I was watching football but couldn't tell a difference. Also even though you can tell it got smaller it was only a fraction of an inch.

There are some people I know who probably would not notice a difference, but the issue one being able to see every pixel, or every bit of the picture that was intended to be seen is reason enough, I think, to everyone to set it for full pixel. But as long as each of us is happy with how ever it is set.