Mede8er 3D Media Player
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Don, if your goal is to be able to play BDISO files, please understand that this, like all it's predecessors only does BD ISO lite, meaning that it does not play a BD ISO file whether 3D or 2D just like the BD disk you extracted the iso file from. Instead it will play it using it's own canned menu, accessing very basic features of the disk. Normally just the language setting, subtitles, and main title with chapter access. You will not be able to access any special features or other parts of the disk, like playing the disk itself.
The BluRay licensing authority has come down hard on any company that has tried to create an exact mirror playback of the disk menu structure. Permitted are play button only for main feature in default language and a basic canned menu for features I mentioned above. The one company who tried to do this, OPPO BD-93 got smacked by the BluRay licensing authority and had to remove that feature from their players.
I also have the Himedia HD900B and it plays the 3D BDISO as a lite version with canned and limited menu structure
Although I have not seen this Mede8er device, it specs out using the same processor as the HiMedia the 1186 chip so therefore it has to have the same function.
The BluRay licensing authority has come down hard on any company that has tried to create an exact mirror playback of the disk menu structure. Permitted are play button only for main feature in default language and a basic canned menu for features I mentioned above. The one company who tried to do this, OPPO BD-93 got smacked by the BluRay licensing authority and had to remove that feature from their players.
I also have the Himedia HD900B and it plays the 3D BDISO as a lite version with canned and limited menu structure
Although I have not seen this Mede8er device, it specs out using the same processor as the HiMedia the 1186 chip so therefore it has to have the same function.
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My popcorn hour c300 plays blueray ISO files with full menu access as if they were the actual disk. Supposedly, it can also play 3D ISOs, but I have not attempted this. If I get a chance, I will try it out and report back.
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My A200 does the same, even the BD Live features... won't play 3D though. There is a post at AVS that says this player will play the HD10(3D camcorder) files in 3D off of an EHDD.
Don- The HiMedia will do the same. But no 3D menus. It's the way the 1186 chip works. I had the Popcorn hour too but can't test it because I gave it away. The PCH used an earlier chip that didn't even do 3D.
I'm not saying that some chip maker won't make a chip that will someday work, but since the BluRay licensing authority made their move a couple years ago they would be in violation and get shut down. I call it the OPPO decision since OPPO was the company that tested the waters. I recall you were at that AVS party a couple years ago where Jason of OPPO told us the bad news. Not sure if you hung around to listen to what he was saying though. When I found out about that I unplugged my BD-93 from the internet.
To play the 3D files from the TD10 all it has to do is recognize the standard MVC package. Many players can do that. It's the JVC MVC file format that everyone has trouble with. They have a special coding that is non-standard. Sony and Panasonic use the same MVC. I Looked at your linked specs and it claims it does M2TS This is the 3D MVC file standard when properly moved to an ext hard drive using the Sony software that came with your TD10. The files on the camcorder's flash memory, however are MTS files and are truncated. If you try to move these files from the TD10 flash memory to the ext hard drive this player may not see them. I've never tried it here with the MTS file on the HiMedia but I know it works with the M2TS files.
While I use my OPPO BD93 for playback of iso 3D files in the Home theater. I use the HiMedia HD800B to play both simple iso files I render and raw camcorder M2ts files while editing. My HD900B is connected to my edit computer and it's HDMI output is connected to the Vizio. Playback with the Himedia is better quality than playback from the timeline in Vegas.
I'm not saying that some chip maker won't make a chip that will someday work, but since the BluRay licensing authority made their move a couple years ago they would be in violation and get shut down. I call it the OPPO decision since OPPO was the company that tested the waters. I recall you were at that AVS party a couple years ago where Jason of OPPO told us the bad news. Not sure if you hung around to listen to what he was saying though. When I found out about that I unplugged my BD-93 from the internet.
To play the 3D files from the TD10 all it has to do is recognize the standard MVC package. Many players can do that. It's the JVC MVC file format that everyone has trouble with. They have a special coding that is non-standard. Sony and Panasonic use the same MVC. I Looked at your linked specs and it claims it does M2TS This is the 3D MVC file standard when properly moved to an ext hard drive using the Sony software that came with your TD10. The files on the camcorder's flash memory, however are MTS files and are truncated. If you try to move these files from the TD10 flash memory to the ext hard drive this player may not see them. I've never tried it here with the MTS file on the HiMedia but I know it works with the M2TS files.
While I use my OPPO BD93 for playback of iso 3D files in the Home theater. I use the HiMedia HD800B to play both simple iso files I render and raw camcorder M2ts files while editing. My HD900B is connected to my edit computer and it's HDMI output is connected to the Vizio. Playback with the Himedia is better quality than playback from the timeline in Vegas.
That's just it, Windows 8 doesn't play well with the Sony software with my pc, my PS3 will play these files from the EHDD thru Play Memories, but it's a hassle going thru that SW to play.
I use the PMB software, not the one designed for PS3. Sony says it is also compatible with windows 7 and is supposed to have some nice features. PMB is not a PS3 designed software. If you want to offload your TD10 files, use PMB. Or if you need one or two files to edit with while you are in Vegas Pro, then you can access the TD10 using the built in utility device access.
The problem with playing these 3D files with your PC is it just is not powerful enough. Unless you built it designed to deal with MVC files. That's because the PC is software based playback while playing direct from these players or from the TD10 is hardware based and designed to play back 3D.
No doubt, playback of 3D is not a simple task and the methods and file structures are still too new and constantly evolving. It reminds me of 2001 when we were trying to build systems to record HD using DVHS.
I'm sure you heard that if you get a 3D graphics card you can play this stuff with Stereoscopic player. This software will work and handle your raw TD10 files as well as other SBS, TB etc files iso too. But again. it requires some powerful hardware to do it. I found Stereoscopic Player too awkward which is why I added the HiMedia device for my final checks before final renderings to BD-R.
The problem with playing these 3D files with your PC is it just is not powerful enough. Unless you built it designed to deal with MVC files. That's because the PC is software based playback while playing direct from these players or from the TD10 is hardware based and designed to play back 3D.
No doubt, playback of 3D is not a simple task and the methods and file structures are still too new and constantly evolving. It reminds me of 2001 when we were trying to build systems to record HD using DVHS.
I'm sure you heard that if you get a 3D graphics card you can play this stuff with Stereoscopic player. This software will work and handle your raw TD10 files as well as other SBS, TB etc files iso too. But again. it requires some powerful hardware to do it. I found Stereoscopic Player too awkward which is why I added the HiMedia device for my final checks before final renderings to BD-R.
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