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[fdk110]

I am setting up a dish & receiver and am getting nowhere. Adding insult to injury, I am close to being taunted by my wife. Currently, we are in the "why don't you hire a professional stage".... I am still acting as though I am in control, but am losing altitude and fast...

Consequently, I am questioning some of my basic assumptions. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Basically, I get signal strength up to 84% but no quality.

1. My LNBF make is:

DMS International Model ACS321S
RF: 1.17 ~ 12.2 Ghz
IF: 950 ~1450 Mhz

Should set the receiver settings to Standard or Universal? (currently is set to standard)

2. 22Khz setting is off. Is this correct?

3. Skew is at 45. Is this correct?

4. I am in Potomac, MD. That is Lattitude 37 and Longitude 77 degrees. Based on this data, Noaa's site indicates that declination is 10.37 degrees West. As such, I figure my true south is at 190.3 degrees. And my TS satellite is AMC5 @ 79 degrees.

Did I get this right?

5. Based on my coordinates the motor manual suggested that th elevation setting on the motor should be 53 degrees and the dish bracket set to 24.

Did I get this right?


Many thanks in advance.

 

[Cascade]

ASC321S is a standard LNB so you have that right.
22KHz, off - yep.

Check your motor bracket if you have an SG2100, there are 2 scales - not many people notice that, one for Lat one for elevation - make sure they're not mixed up

Edit: you should leave the skew on the LNB set to 0 - the motor will skew the whole dish for you.

 

[PSB]

Potomac, MD 20854
Latitude 39° 2.328'N Longitude 77° 11.532'W

Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m) El Skew
-------------------------------------------------------------


*** All Satellites 61W - 160W ***

EchoStar 3 61.5W 156.0 167.3 41.9 -18.4
Rainbow 1 61.5W 156.0 167.3 41.9 -18.4
Brasilsat A2 (incl. 5.8 deg) 63.0W 158.1 169.5 42.4 -16.8
Brasilsat B2 65.0W 161.1 172.4 43.0 -14.6
Brasilsat B1 70.0W 168.7 180.0 44.2 -8.8
Nahuel 1 71.8W 171.5 182.8 44.5 -6.6
AMC 6 72.0W 171.8 183.1 44.5 -6.4
Galaxy 12 74.0W 174.9 186.3 44.7 -3.9
SBS 6 74.0W 174.9 186.3 44.7 -3.9
GOES 12 75.0W 176.5 187.9 44.7 -2.7
AMC 5 79.0W 182.9 194.2 44.8 2.2
DirecTV 3 81.8W 187.3 198.6 44.5 5.7
Nimiq 2 82.0W 187.6 198.9 44.5 5.9
Brasilsat B3 84.0W 190.7 202.1 44.2 8.3
XM Roll 85.0W 192.3 203.6 44.1 9.5
AMC 9 85.0W 192.3 203.6 44.1 9.5
AMC 3 87.0W 195.3 206.7 43.7 11.9
Galaxy 9 91.0W 201.3 212.7 42.6 16.4
Galaxy 11 91.0W 201.3 212.7 42.6 16.4
Nimiq 1 91.0W 201.3 212.7 42.6 16.4
Brasilsat B4 92.0W 202.8 214.1 42.2 17.5
Telstar 6 93.0W 204.2 215.5 41.9 18.6
Galaxy 8I (incl. 1.0 deg) 95.0W 207.0 218.4 41.1 20.7
Galaxy 3C 95.0W 207.0 218.4 41.1 20.7
Telstar 5 97.0W 209.8 221.1 40.3 22.7
Inmarsat 2 f2 (incl. 1.7 deg) 98.0W 211.1 222.4 39.9 23.7
Galaxy 4R 99.0W 212.4 223.8 39.4 24.6
DirecTV 2 100.8W 214.8 226.1 38.6 26.3
DirecTV 1R 100.8W 214.8 226.1 38.6 26.3
AMC 4 101.0W 215.0 226.4 38.5 26.5
DirecTV 1 101.0W 215.0 226.4 38.5 26.5
AMSC 1 101.1W 215.1 226.5 38.4 26.6
DirecTV 4S 101.2W 215.3 226.6 38.4 26.6
AMC 1 103.0W 217.5 228.9 37.5 28.2
Solidaridad 1 (incl. 2.8 deg) 103.5W 218.1 229.5 37.2 28.7
AMC 2 105.0W 219.9 231.3 36.4 29.9
G-Star 3 (incl. 11.5 deg) 105.0W 219.9 231.3 36.4 29.9
G-Star 1 (incl. 6.0 deg) 105.0W 219.9 231.3 36.4 29.9
MSAT 1 106.5W 221.7 233.1 35.6 31.1
Anik F1 107.3W 222.6 234.0 35.1 31.7
Anik E1 109.2W 224.8 236.1 34.0 33.2
DirecTV 6 109.8W 225.4 236.8 33.6 33.6
EchoStar 6 110.0W 225.7 237.0 33.5 33.7
EchoStar 8 110.0W 225.7 237.0 33.5 33.7
Anik E2R 111.1W 226.9 238.2 32.8 34.5
Solidaridad 2 113.0W 228.9 240.2 31.6 35.8
Morelos 2 (incl. 4.4 deg) 114.9W 230.8 242.2 30.4 37.0
XM Rock 115.0W 230.9 242.3 30.4 37.1
SatMex 5 116.8W 232.7 244.1 29.2 38.2
Anik E2 118.7W 234.6 245.9 27.9 39.3
DirecTV 5 119.0W 234.8 246.2 27.7 39.4
EchoStar 7 119.0W 234.8 246.2 27.7 39.4
EchoStar 5 119.0W 234.8 246.2 27.7 39.4
EchoStar 9/Telstar 13 121.0W 236.7 248.1 26.3 40.5
Galaxy 10R 123.0W 238.5 249.9 24.9 41.5
Galaxy 5 125.0W 240.3 251.6 23.5 42.4
Galaxy 12 125.0W 240.3 251.6 23.5 42.4
Galaxy 13 127.0W 242.0 253.3 22.0 43.3
Telstar 7 129.0W 243.6 255.0 20.6 44.1
Satcom C3 131.0W 245.3 256.6 19.1 44.9
Galaxy 1R 133.0W 246.8 258.2 17.6 45.6
Satcom C4 135.0W 248.4 259.7 16.1 46.2
GOES 10 135.5W 248.7 260.1 15.7 46.4
AMC 7 137.0W 249.9 261.2 14.6 46.8
AMC 8 139.0W 251.3 262.7 13.1 47.4
Inmarsat 2 f3 (incl. 1.9 deg) 142.0W 253.5 264.8 10.8 48.1
EchoStar 1 148.0W 257.6 269.0 6.1 49.3
EchoStar 2 148.0W 257.6 269.0 6.1 49.3
TDRS 9 (incl. 7.4 deg) 151.0W 259.6 271.0 3.8 49.8
TDRS 10 (incl. 6.2 deg) 151.0W 259.6 271.0 3.8 49.8
EchoStar 4 157.0W 263.5 274.9 -0.8 50.5

Satellite Finder is (c) Copyright 2004, P. Lutus

It says here your lat. is 39 deg.

Motor elev. = 51 deg.
Dish ele. = 24 deg.

No skew is needed for a motorized mount/true south. So the LNBF should be straight up and down.

 

[kdcampbell77]

Pete,

I am having similar problems with my new fta motor setup.

Traxis 2500 DMS Digital KU LNBF
Samsonic 75cm dish
DMS S 2100 positioner
Lat: N41.2613 Lon: W89.2277 Zip Code: 61326
Mast is true level and plumb

I have yet to get enough quality out of any birds even though i have adjusted dish elevation and used the receiver's Diseq to move the dish around.

Nothing seems to help. Going on my 4 day and about ready to give up. Never had this much trouble peaking a dish before. Please help

Thanks,
Keenan

 

[PSB]

Dont give up! I would remove the motor and find a few satellites then put the motor back on.
What kind of LNBF do you have? Any markings on it? You will not get any signal quality unless the L.O. is set for the type of LNBF you have.






Granville, IL 61326
Latitude 41° 15.852'N Longitude 89° 13.500'W

Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m) El Skew
-------------------------------------------------------------


*** All Satellites 61W - 160W ***

EchoStar 3 61.5W 141.4 143.3 34.6 -27.9
Rainbow 1 61.5W 141.4 143.3 34.6 -27.9
Brasilsat A2 (incl. 5.8 deg) 63.0W 143.2 145.1 35.3 -26.7
Brasilsat B2 65.0W 145.7 147.6 36.3 -25.1
Brasilsat B1 70.0W 152.1 154.0 38.4 -20.6
Nahuel 1 71.8W 154.6 156.4 39.1 -18.8
AMC 6 72.0W 154.8 156.7 39.1 -18.6
Galaxy 12 74.0W 157.6 159.5 39.8 -16.7
SBS 6 74.0W 157.6 159.5 39.8 -16.7
GOES 12 75.0W 159.0 160.8 40.1 -15.6
AMC 5 79.0W 164.7 166.6 41.2 -11.4
DirecTV 3 81.8W 168.8 170.7 41.7 -8.4
Nimiq 2 82.0W 169.1 171.0 41.7 -8.2
Brasilsat B3 84.0W 172.1 174.0 42.0 -5.9
XM Roll 85.0W 173.6 175.5 42.1 -4.8
AMC 9 85.0W 173.6 175.5 42.1 -4.8
AMC 3 87.0W 176.6 178.5 42.3 -2.5
Galaxy 9 91.0W 182.7 184.6 42.3 2.0
Galaxy 11 91.0W 182.7 184.6 42.3 2.0
Nimiq 1 91.0W 182.7 184.6 42.3 2.0
Brasilsat B4 92.0W 184.2 186.1 42.2 3.2
Telstar 6 93.0W 185.7 187.6 42.2 4.3
Galaxy 8I (incl. 1.0 deg) 95.0W 188.7 190.6 41.9 6.5
Galaxy 3C 95.0W 188.7 190.6 41.9 6.5
Telstar 5 97.0W 191.7 193.6 41.6 8.8
Inmarsat 2 f2 (incl. 1.7 deg) 98.0W 193.2 195.0 41.5 9.9
Galaxy 4R 99.0W 194.6 196.5 41.3 11.0
DirecTV 2 100.8W 197.3 199.1 40.9 12.9
DirecTV 1R 100.8W 197.3 199.1 40.9 12.9
AMC 4 101.0W 197.5 199.4 40.8 13.1
DirecTV 1 101.0W 197.5 199.4 40.8 13.1
AMSC 1 101.1W 197.7 199.6 40.8 13.2
DirecTV 4S 101.2W 197.8 199.7 40.8 13.3
AMC 1 103.0W 200.4 202.3 40.3 15.2
Solidaridad 1 (incl. 2.8 deg) 103.5W 201.1 203.0 40.1 15.7
AMC 2 105.0W 203.2 205.1 39.6 17.2
G-Star 3 (incl. 11.5 deg) 105.0W 203.2 205.1 39.6 17.2
G-Star 1 (incl. 6.0 deg) 105.0W 203.2 205.1 39.6 17.2
MSAT 1 106.5W 205.2 207.1 39.1 18.7
Anik F1 107.3W 206.3 208.2 38.8 19.5
Anik E1 109.2W 208.9 210.7 38.1 21.3
DirecTV 6 109.8W 209.6 211.5 37.9 21.8
EchoStar 6 110.0W 209.9 211.8 37.8 22.0
EchoStar 8 110.0W 209.9 211.8 37.8 22.0
Anik E2R 111.1W 211.3 213.2 37.3 23.0
Solidaridad 2 113.0W 213.7 215.6 36.5 24.7
Morelos 2 (incl. 4.4 deg) 114.9W 216.1 218.0 35.6 26.3
XM Rock 115.0W 216.2 218.1 35.5 26.4
SatMex 5 116.8W 218.4 220.2 34.6 27.8
Anik E2 118.7W 220.6 222.5 33.6 29.3
DirecTV 5 119.0W 220.9 222.8 33.5 29.5
EchoStar 7 119.0W 220.9 222.8 33.5 29.5
EchoStar 5 119.0W 220.9 222.8 33.5 29.5
EchoStar 9/Telstar 13 121.0W 223.2 225.1 32.4 31.0
Galaxy 10R 123.0W 225.4 227.3 31.2 32.4
Galaxy 5 125.0W 227.5 229.4 30.1 33.7
Galaxy 12 125.0W 227.5 229.4 30.1 33.7
Galaxy 13 127.0W 229.6 231.5 28.8 34.9
Telstar 7 129.0W 231.6 233.5 27.6 36.1
Satcom C3 131.0W 233.6 235.4 26.3 37.2
Galaxy 1R 133.0W 235.5 237.3 25.0 38.3
Satcom C4 135.0W 237.3 239.2 23.7 39.2
GOES 10 135.5W 237.8 239.6 23.3 39.5
AMC 7 137.0W 239.1 241.0 22.3 40.2
AMC 8 139.0W 240.8 242.7 20.9 41.0
Inmarsat 2 f3 (incl. 1.9 deg) 142.0W 243.4 245.3 18.8 42.2
EchoStar 1 148.0W 248.2 250.1 14.5 44.3
EchoStar 2 148.0W 248.2 250.1 14.5 44.3
TDRS 9 (incl. 7.4 deg) 151.0W 250.5 252.4 12.3 45.1
TDRS 10 (incl. 6.2 deg) 151.0W 250.5 252.4 12.3 45.1
EchoStar 4 157.0W 254.9 256.8 7.9 46.5

Satellite Finder is (c) Copyright 2004, P. Lutus

SG2100 Motor Elev. = 49 deg.
Dish Elev. = 24 deg.

 

[kdcampbell77]

My LNB is as follows:

DMS International
Digital Ku Band LNBF
Model: ASC321S
RF 11.7 - 12.2GHz
IF 950 -1450 MHz


Thanks for the moral support

Keenan

 

[PSB]

Same as above then, the L.O. should be 10750

 

[kdcampbell77]

ok i changed that and pointed to amc-3 as you suggested and the best signal i get with no obstructions and a clear view of all the sky is 60% with 0% quality

 

[fdk110]

Thanks guys.

I guess I have to get back up on the ladder and try again. Can you confirm that I correctly identified my TS satellite AMC5?

 

[PSB]

Its + 3 deg. but AMC-5 is the closest to True South.

 

[kdcampbell77]

i am beginning to wonder if i have some defective parts. nothing will come above 60% and never any quality

i am at a loss,
keenan

 

[PSB]

Signal means nothing all you are looking for is signal quality, make sure you have a live channel entered then watch for signal quality, very small movements of the dish from left to right, then move the elevation up a degree or two and do another sweep, also try a few degrees below your elevation.

Usually there is nothing wrong with your system just a pointing issue, or sometimes a tree or something blocking the line of sight.


AMC-3

TV-1 (Bloomberg)

DFreq : 11723 MHz (H) SR : 3.675 Msps

 

[Shawn95GT]

Try different transponders as well.

For AMC5:
On my end TP16 (12182H) comes in stronger than TP1 (11742V).

 

[CharredPC]

i am beginning to wonder if i have some defective parts. nothing will come above 60% and never any quality
i am at a loss,
keenan

I know exactly how you feel. You sound like me about a week and a half ago. My SG2100, Winegard 31", and Universal LNB got me nothing over 60% signal, and 0% quality. I felt sure my equipment was faulty. I'm now building a Home Theatre PC based around my Twinhan 102g (will post pics somewhere when I'm done) after finding 90% of the American Ku sats on lyngsat, and having over 150 channels saved Nahuel 1 continues to elude me, lol.

Don't give up! It's sooo worth it.
Also, on my Universal lnb; I usually only get 65% signal, MAX, and then only if I'm already pointed perfectly. Don't trust sig. strength numbers too much

 

[kdcampbell77]

Pete Et.al,

I am now watching St. louis and Kansas City Baseball on Galaxy 10r I have been trying different things. I think my biggest problem was that i was looking for quality on transponder 1 even though it might be empty. as soon as i changed to a used transponder everything fell into place.

Thanks for the help, i'm sure i will need somemore soon,

Keenan

 

[PSB]

Cool! Have fun!

 

[ken2400]

1. Which receiver do you have and do you know that it works?
2. Use a signal meter if you are not using one already
3. Bring the TV as close to the dish as you can and try to point the dish as you watch the TV.
4. Point to a nice strong bird like 110 or 101
http://www.lyngsat.com/amc4.html 11822 H SR 5700

Good luck and keep your wife happy and us posted

I am setting up a dish & receiver and am getting nowhere. Adding insult to injury, I am close to being taunted by my wife. Currently, we are in the "why don't you hire a professional stage".... I am still acting as though I am in control, but am losing altitude and fast...

Consequently, I am questioning some of my basic assumptions. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Basically, I get signal strength up to 84% but no quality.

1. My LNBF make is:

DMS International Model ACS321S
RF: 1.17 ~ 12.2 Ghz
IF: 950 ~1450 Mhz

Should set the receiver settings to Standard or Universal? (currently is set to standard)

2. 22Khz setting is off. Is this correct?

3. Skew is at 45. Is this correct?

4. I am in Potomac, MD. That is Lattitude 37 and Longitude 77 degrees. Based on this data, Noaa's site indicates that declination is 10.37 degrees West. As such, I figure my true south is at 190.3 degrees. And my TS satellite is AMC5 @ 79 degrees.

Did I get this right?

5. Based on my coordinates the motor manual suggested that th elevation setting on the motor should be 53 degrees and the dish bracket set to 24.

Did I get this right?


Many thanks in advance.

 

[timmy1376]

While we are at it, Pete, can you give me the list of sats and true south bird for Manhattan, KS 66502??

thanks!

 

[Shawn95GT]

http://www.arachnoid.com/satfinder/
Looks like IA-5. LOTS of FTA up there.