Massive Pay Reduction

[ZandarKoad]

The contracting outfit I work for just got docked $10 per every additional tuner on new connects. Our pay scale went from:

4 Tuner NC (2 duals) $175 to $145
3 Tuner NC (1 dual, 1 single) $145 to $125
2 Tuner NC (1 dual) $120 to $110
1 Tuner NC (1 single) $90 to $80

This is a massive blow to every installer in our outfit. I have no idea why our outfit was deducted so hard. Neither does my supervisor. Are other contracting shops getting the same play deduct?

Edited: $10 pay deduct on additional TUNERS. Hence $30 less for a 4 tuner.

 

[goaliebob99]

Wow that sucks!

 

[rowemance]

If they got a reduction of $10.00 why are they cutting you 20 or 30 on 3 or 4.

Most likely they dropped a tier in the pay scale with Dish due to there churn rate was too high.

They probably were signing up anyone and not doing any pre screening of customers.

It should be the sales department that should take the cut. I haven't heard of any installation payment reduction by Dish.

 

[tski]

dish did cut rates on additional tuners and superdish prices it was two phases it actually started oct 8 and the second phase nov 1

 

[wobbie]

Are you working for a RSP??? I have'nt heard of any cuts to retailers or dealers.

 

[Stargazer]

Some have cut pay in the past without any cuts from Dish Network because they know there will always be someone willing to work for the new lower pay. There is always people looking for work and they see how low that they can go until they can't find anyone willing to work for that kind of pay.

 

[tski]

this cut was from dish directly on the superdish and add tuners

 

[ZandarKoad]

What the heck

Tski, do you have any evidence that's it's really a nation (or region) wide reduction? Is this a temporary deduct? Do they WANT to loose all their best technicians?

 

[wobbie]

Zandearkoad. I believe it was from Dish, I've heard the same thing from a few guys that do retail referral and DNSC work on my area. But then again, what they are cutting your pay to.. is a heck of alot better then what the guys I know are getting paid. I'm in the Midwest (BlueSky Satellite area) I'll do some asking around for you.

 

[Texanmutt]

The poeple i'm working for told us about a pay cut 2 weeks ago. Ours is only 5 bucks though.

 

[OoTLink]

Dangit! I suppose this means no more yanking every last bit of coax off and given our renters a clubdish card when we move then huh? >_> It'd be a prank at first so the dish guy sees the dish and busted tie downs everywhere but no coax but at $10-40 less, no that'd just be mean..

Just kidding

 

[Bob Haller]

dealer installer is sucky business model. divorces and deaths result in chargebacks. thats blatantly unfair and why I quit

 

[farmsatguy]

Yeah, this is real...we got hit on the period beginning October 8th. Went from $187 for a 4 room (2 duals) w/Super Dish to $155. For the Dish 500/1000, dropped from $150 to $130. My market is now D1000 only (well, no need for the Super as all the locals are coming in on 129 now too - we're only being shipped the 1000's); the pay cut really hurts as the cost of equipment is going up (Perfect 10 just went UP $1/case on the RG-6 we order) and even though fuel is coming down, that still tears the wallet up. And, don't even get me started on chargebacks...I've seen several chargebacks lately where someone went behind me, found the install was great, but had to replace some hardware (like a bad receiver)...that is total BS.

Got to admit though, the D1000 does make things easier with dual tuners (and the use of diplexers) because of the DPP Twin. Heh, wait until the 411 comes out...we'll be cut even further I suppose (IMHO).

 

[ZandarKoad]

Such is the free market. Time to start looking for other work.

 

[Van]

Times within the industry are changing, look at directv and how it is now opening up its own version of dns facilities. Our dns office is able to do the job cheaper and with better quality than that of our subs on a consistant basis. I was part of a larger group fo techs that went to a norther plains state a few years ago to take over the work load of a large sub firm that dish was ending its contract with and putting up a new dns. Yes it is unfortunate that there will be good techs in your part of the industry that are getting hurt by this but as with any business times do change.

 

[Liquidforce88]

Well feel lucky in a way. We here have never gotten that much for a quad to begin with. What you are getting now is still more than the highest I have seen paid in the last two years in this area. I can't complain though still will make over 50K this year.

 

[ProSat2]

I'm sorry to hear about that. I have been getting $130 for a quad for 3 years. Actually I get $70 for a single then $20 for each additional receiver. We are in a D500 area for now. I have done a few Superdishes and to me they are not really worth it. I guess if I had to do them daily I would get a rhythm down.

LM

 

[Texanmutt]

I'm sorry to hear about that. I have been getting $130 for a quad for 3 years. Actually I get $70 for a single then $20 for each additional receiver. We are in a D500 area for now. I have done a few Superdishes and to me they are not really worth it. I guess if I had to do them daily I would get a rhythm down.

LM

Thats what it was for us. Looks like dish is starting to do what cable has been doing for years, cutting payrates down to nothing. That why most cable subs do very sh!tty work.

 

[Texanmutt]

Our dns office is able to do the job cheaper and with better quality than that of our subs on a consistant basis.

Always picking on subs. Ouch.

 

[farmsatguy]

Always picking on subs. Ouch.

Agreed Tex,

As anyone could figure out, in some areas, DNS does a better a job than subs and in other areas, it is definitely the opposite. I see the biggest piles of crap from DNS in this area and I get so tired of the same old arguement of who's better. How about both & neither and get that over with. Usually I ignore posts like that, whether from a DNS tech or from a sub...but man, give it rest, will ya! Someone one either side for any length knows there is plenty of improvement within your own house - so focus on it. I've known plenty of rotton subs, too. Can someone from in-house not admit the same? If you can admit it (and you should), they why throw cheap shots at the "other side". There will always be subs. Period. Hell, if they get us down to a cheap enough rate, there could be no need for in-house (just another persective).

The "newest big wig" for our closest DNS (how many now since it opened just a few years ago? 3...4...more???) has even made it clear in so may words that they don't even care about grounding anymore...it's all about the subs (meaning subscribers not sub-contractors). Our company has it's own QSC - more than 30 per week done - and despite this, no grounding is still a compulsory failure internally. So the new DNS focus is on concrete...geez, aren't we a little late with that. We're pretty much 95% Dish 1000. Of that, a huge percentage is on a roof, or a gable end, or whatever. Personnally, I use Bishop tape for roof mounts, then a little caulk. Don't see DNS spending cash for Bishop tape or anything like it (look it up for those who don't know what it is). So it hurts us little guys when we put MORE in and lose money. As for the concrete, where was the focus through all the Super Dish installs where most of them went on poles (we refused to do roof mounts long before Dish went the same direction - too much liability - funny us subs were there first).