Mac OS X User Thread

[DodgerKing]

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Installed FF 6 and an icon is on the window. If I try to remove the icon the trash changes to eject and uninstalls FF. How do I remove the icon off the desktop without uninstalling it.

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[DodgerKing]

Every time I open FF it puts a FF drive icon on the desktop. If I trash it, it will reappear when I open it again.

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[DodgerKing]

I figured it out. Evidently you have to first drag FF into the application folder before you open it. This is yet another thing that is less complicated on windows.

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[JAG72]

I figured it out. Evidently you have to first drag FF into the application folder before you open it. This is yet another thing that is less complicated on windows.

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Really? I didn't know just dragging the icon to the application folder to install an application was that complicated. Really it is not complicated but just different. Windows you have to run the setup program and OSx you just need to drag the icon to the application folder. Both are easy but just different.

 

[DodgerKing]

Actually it is easier. On Windows you simply run it and it does everything on its own, and you have to option to do custom install. Or you save it and run it later

On MAC you install it, look all over the place to find it, only later realize it can be found under this microscopic icon on the corner of the browser window. You open it and another icon pops up with the image of the software and an arrow pointing to a folder. God forbid you accidentally open it without dragging it first because you touch the keypad incorrectly (which is another annoying thing). In doing so you will run the image instead of the program. And then you have to go through 10 other moves to correctly install it

 

[JAG72]

Your just used to one way over the other is all.

I personally like that you can run the application from the image instead of installing it. Gives you a chance to test drive the application prior to installing it to the hard drive. We all know your hate for MAC and sorry to say it is impacting your view on what is going on. Really you are just going trough the growing pains of changing to a new OS. Many others here went trough the same thing to just discover that is really isn't as bad as they thought. Everything you have said can be corrected much quicker than you have stated.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I was totally confused by installing apps at first but really like how they do it on osx. And no where as much junk strewn throughout the hard drive and registry.

Plus every app is in its own sandbox, and is much more secure as a result.

As far as icons, I don't put much at all on the desktop. No programs, just aliases for network drives. The dock and launchpad work great

 

[DodgerKing]

Your just used to one way over the other is all.

I personally like that you can run the application from the image instead of installing it. Gives you a chance to test drive the application prior to installing it to the hard drive. We all know your hate for MAC and sorry to say it is impacting your view on what is going on. Really you are just going trough the growing pains of changing to a new OS. Many others here went trough the same thing to just discover that is really isn't as bad as they thought. Everything you have said can be corrected much quicker than you have stated.

Could be. Once I am figuring things out it is becoming easier. I just prefer windows. It seems like I have more control.

One thing I do like is the lack of bloatware crap every time I install software. Our e-printer software for windows will not let you simply install the printer and scanner drivers by themselves. You must install the entire software suit and then spend 30 minutes removing the crap you do not want. On the MAC I am able to simply install the printer diver by itself. Although I think this is only because HP has yet to make the suit available for Lion.

 

[DodgerKing]

OK. The more I play with this thing, the more I like it.

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[rockymtnhigh]

OK. The more I play with this thing, the more I like it.

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I am not surprised. Its just a solid machine, and Lion is an excellent operating system. I am sold on it. Oh, it has some things that it takes a windows user a while to adjust to (like not sorting folders first in finder), but all in all the advantages have far outweighed the disadvantages. The gestures are probably one of the strongest user interfaces I have encountered.

PLUS the darn thing is stable, can run for a heck of a long time without a reboot; manages memory so much better than a PC; and so much more secure.

 

[DodgerKing]

I'm going to install Windows 7 and Ubuntu on it as well.

The biggest issues I have are when I need to undo something I did.

I am not a big fan of the gestures. Probably because I gave clumsy fingers.

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[JAG72]

I'm going to install Windows 7 and Ubuntu on it as well.

I thought the Mac Book was the wife's?

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I'm going to install Windows 7 and Ubuntu on it as well.

The biggest issues I have are when I need to undo something I did.

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If you are talking about undeleting an application: For most programs if you just delete the "App" in the Applications folder, it will delete everything you need (since the app is really a package of files). OR you can download the trial of Forklift, a finder replacement, which includes an App Delete program; or just find an app delete program. It will do a good job of deleting an app.

If you mean something else, provide a bit more detail and I'll try to answer. I am not an expert, but I have learned A LOT in the past three months.

I have Windows XP running in Parallels, but I have not used it in close to a month. I only have two or three PC programs on the machine; I have found mac versions or just as good or better mac alternatives.

If I recall properly, your wife is a teacher too, right? If so, consider spending the money on a program called Devonthink Pro; it is an information manager that creates databases that are very very powerful. You can pretty much store all of the files for a class or a project in it, have full search capabilities and much more. I use it as my primary research tool these days. On the PC I used an old program called askSam, which was a free-text database, but DT is 100x more powerful. Best $120 I have spent on software in a long time.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

plus, there is a Devonthink to Go app for the iPad, which allows you to sync databases with the ipad. Very very useful!

 

[DodgerKing]

I thought the Mac Book was the wife's?

I am currently her go to geek. Every question she has I work with her to figure it out.

Yeah, I probably played with it more than her. She does want windows so she can use or current office suit without buying the MAC version and to use some if her chemistry software. I will install Ubuntu simply because I can

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[rockymtnhigh]

I am currently her go to geek. Every question she has I work with her to figure it out.

Yeah, I probably played with it more than her. She does want windows so she can use or current office suit without buying the MAC version and to use some if her chemistry software. I will install Ubuntu simply because I can

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Use Parallels instead of Bootcamp. She will be able to run Windows apps integrated with mac apps.

 

[DodgerKing]

If you are talking about undeleting an application: For most programs if you just delete the "App" in the Applications folder, it will delete everything you need (since the app is really a package of files). OR you can download the trial of Forklift, a finder replacement, which includes an App Delete program; or just find an app delete program. It will do a good job of deleting an app.

If you mean something else, provide a bit more detail and I'll try to answer. I am not an expert, but I have learned A LOT in the past three months.

I have Windows XP running in Parallels, but I have not used it in close to a month. I only have two or three PC programs on the machine; I have found mac versions or just as good or better mac alternatives.

If I recall properly, your wife is a teacher too, right? If so, consider spending the money on a program called Devonthink Pro; it is an information manager that creates databases that are very very powerful. You can pretty much store all of the files for a class or a project in it, have full search capabilities and much more. I use it as my primary research tool these days. On the PC I used an old program called askSam, which was a free-text database, but DT is 100x more powerful. Best $120 I have spent on software in a long time.

She is not a teacher. She is a chemist.

For example I synched her gmail account with iCal, Address Book, Mail, and iChat (?). How do I undo some of those sync links? For example, how do I undo syncing with the chat software?

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[JAG72]

I would personally install Windows and Linux into a virutal machine instead of using bootcamp. Will be much easier when she needs to use the software.

 

[DodgerKing]

Use Parallels instead of Bootcamp. She will be able to run Windows apps integrated with mac apps.

How do I do that? Will I still need to install windows in order to do it?

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[JAG72]

I personally use Fusion but they are all pretty comparable.