List of HD Channels NOT Available on Dish Network: Version 2 Updated

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HDRoberts said:
Thought I might give another go at an update, with slightly reshuffled categories.

You might consider this less compete, as I removed some channels that make less difference, such as the FiOS controlled .TV channels, and west coast versions of premium channels. Thanks to Adam, who started this list. Feel free to correct.

Enjoy!

Channels Available in SD on Dish Network not in HD – 16 Channels
American Movie Classics HD
CNN Headline News HD
ESPNU HD
Fuel TV HD
Fuse TV HD
G4 HD
Independent Film Channel HD
ION TV HD
NASA TV HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Oxygen HD
RFD-TV HD
Style HD
Trinity Broadcasting Network HD
Turner Classic Movies HD
Women's Entertainment HD

HD Channels Available Not on Dish Network Not Carried in SD, if available – 10 Channels
ABC News Now HD
Al Jazeera English HD
Live Well HD
MLB Network HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
TCT Network HD
TV One HD
Universal Sports HD
Vatican TV HD
Wealth TV HD

Shopping Channels – 3 Channels
Home Shopping Network HD
Jewelry TV HD
QVC HD


Premium Movie Channels (Excluding West Coast Versions) – 24 Channels
Dish has in SD – 15 Channels
Encore Action HD
Encore Drama HD
Encore Love HD
Encore Mystery HD
Encore WAM! HD
Encore Westerns HD
Flix HD
MoreMax HD
Showtime Beyond HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Showcase HD
Starz! Cinema HD
Starz! inBlack HD
Sundance Channel HD
The Movie Channel Xtraa
Dish does not have in SD – 9 Channels
@Max HD
Epix HD
MoviePlex HD
OuterMax HD
Showtime FamilyZone HD
Showtime Next HD
Showtime Women HD
ThrillerMax HD
WMax HD


Channels Not Yet Launched – 45 Channels
SD Version on Dish – 13 Channels
Chiller HD
Documentary Channel HD
Fox Movie Channel HD
Fox Reality Channel HD
God TV HD
Great American Country HD
MTV 2 HD
Oprah Winfrey Network HD
ReezChannel HD
Sleuth HD
Telefutura HD
Telemundo
Univision HD
Not carried on Dish – 32 Channels (Editorial comment: I doubt some of these niche channels will ever happen)
*-Indicates SD version exists
29 HD Network
3ABN Latino HD
Africa Channel HD*
Black TV News Channel HD
Blue Highways TV HD*
CNN International HD*
ComedyNet HD
Fight Network HD
Fox Sports en Espanol HD*
Gol TV HD *
Gospel Music Channel HD *
I-Life TV HD
ION Life HD*
Italian American Network HD
JCTV HD *
Jewish Life TV HD
Mun2 TV HD
Pursuit Channel HD
Qubo HD*
S|Sports TV HD
Si TV HD
Smile of a Child TV HD
SoapNet HD
Sonbeam Channel HD
Soundtrack Channel HD
TBN Enlace HD
The Church Channel HD
Three Angels Broadcasting Network HD
TV Games Network HD
Veria TV HD
Wine Network HD
Worship Network HD*

Regional Sports Networks – 17 Channels
Braves TV HD
Channel 4 San Diego HD (Padres)
Comcast SportsNet Northwest HD
Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia HD
Comcast SportsNet Southeast HD
Dallas Cowboys Channel HD
FOX College Sports Atlantic HD
FOX College Sports Central HD
FOX College Sports Pacific HD
FOX Sports Carolinas HD
FOX Sports Oklahoma HD
FOX Sports Tennessee HD
Madison Square Garden Network HD
MSG Network + HD
Mid Atlantic Sports Network HD
MountainWest Sports Network HD (2010)
Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network HD

RSN's NOT 24/7 – 26 Channels
Altitude Sports & Entertainment HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet Bay Area HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet New England HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet West HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Arizona HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Cincinnati HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Detroit HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Florida HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Midwest HD (24/7)
FOX Sports North HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Northwest HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Ohio HD (Cleveland / Columbus) (24/7)
FOX Sports Pittsburgh HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Prime Ticket HD (L.A.) (24/7)
FOX Sports Rocky Mountain HD (24/7)
FOX Sports South HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Southwest HD (24/7)
FOX Sports West HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Wisconsin HD (24/7)
New England Sports Network HD (24/7)
SportsNet New York (24/7)
SportSouth HD (24/7)
SportsTime Ohio HD (24/7)
Sun Sports HD (24/7)

Adult Channels - 3 Channels
Penthouse TV HD
Playboy TV HD
Spice TV HD

Foreign Channel Imports – 22 Channels
Aqua HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Baby HD (Canadian, 4th Quarter 2009)
Aboriginal Peoples TV Network HD (Canadian)
Central China TV HD
Centre Stage HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Clash HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009
Crafts & Hobbies HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Disney CineMagic HD (British)
EuroSport HD (British)
Eureka! HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Equator HD
Game World HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Horror HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Luxe TV HD (French)
Melody Zen HD (British)
MTVN HD (European)
Oasis HD
Seniors Life HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Treasure HD
Women's Sports HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Voom HD (Everywhere BUT USA)
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so using two TP's is going to do what?
BTW, let's suppose for a moment these channels were all added, who is going to pay for them?
The $10 addtional for HD goes out the window.
Only those pining for HD will cough up the bucks.
Normal customers won't touch it.
In anyevent, there's still plenty of space. Dish isn't done launching brids either.
Many of the sevices on the list are niche channels. Others are regionals.

This list is an indication why a la carte is desperately needed.
 
dishcomm said:
so using two TP's is going to do what?
BTW, let's suppose for a moment these channels were all added, who is going to pay for them?
The $10 addtional for HD goes out the window.
Only those pining for HD will cough up the bucks.
Normal customers won't touch it.
In anyevent, there's still plenty of space. Dish isn't done launching brids either.
Many of the sevices on the list are niche channels. Others are regionals.

This list is an indication why a la carte is desperately needed.
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Many of the channels have no extra charges for the HD version via the SD version. The movie channels are an example of it. Most of the HD carriage is a negotiated item with programming providers.
 
dishcomm said:
so using two TP's is going to do what?
BTW, let's suppose for a moment these channels were all added, who is going to pay for them?
The $10 addtional for HD goes out the window.
Only those pining for HD will cough up the bucks.
Normal customers won't touch it.
In anyevent, there's still plenty of space. Dish isn't done launching brids either.
Many of the sevices on the list are niche channels. Others are regionals.

This list is an indication why a la carte is desperately needed.
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Launching satellites enables more efficient use of existing space, but not more space. At least not until a revers DBS bird comes out, but that will require LNB swaps and potentially new dishes.

And as was said, HD usually cost no extra. Programmers do try to go after an increase, but it is for both the SD and HD versions.
 
HDRoberts said:
Launching satellites enables more efficient use of existing space, but not more space. At least not until a revers DBS bird comes out, but that will require LNB swaps and potentially new dishes.
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I do not see Dish network ever using reverse DBS for home programming. Reverse DBS has big rain fade issues compared to Ku DBS. Dish has never used their Ka frequencies for home use which have far less rain fade issues than reverse DBS would have. Dish will probably use for back hauls and other commercial purposes.

Reverse DBS even has "rain echo" problems if you are near an uplink center when it rains the powerful transmission from the ground antenna to the satellite reflects back off the raindrops to the area around the antenna and can block the weak satellite signal.

Not to accuse Dish of "warehousing" spectrum, but they have had a few Ka licenses lost because of lack of progress in building a satellite, and have had to defend lack of use of others. I suspect something similar might happen to the reverse DBS slots they have applied for.
 
More channels coming, time for an update. There are only 12 standard channels confirmed to be available in HD that Dish does not have (2 likely to be crossed off the list in a couple weeks). The big ones still missing remain ESPNU (awaiting litigation over best customer pricing) and Rainbow channels AMC, IFC, and WE (awaiting litigation over Voom).

Of course, there are 14 more that Dish has in SD that are merely awaiting and HD launch. And there are 14 premiums Dish has in SD and does not have in HD. So, aside from RSNs, there are 40 channels to go for Dish to practically have the whole lineup in HD.

Channels Available in SD on Dish Network not in HD – 12 Channels
American Movie Classics HD
ESPNU HD
Fuel TV HD
Fuse TV HD
Independent Film Channel HD
ION TV HD
NASA TV HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Oxygen HD
RFD-TV HD
Trinity Broadcasting Network HD
Women's Entertainment HD

HD Channels Available Not on Dish Network Not Carried in SD, if available – 10 Channels
ABC News Now HD
Al Jazeera English HD
Live Well HD
MLB Network HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
TCT Network HD
TV One HD
Universal Sports HD
Vatican TV HD
Wealth TV HD

Shopping Channels – 3 Channels
Home Shopping Network HD
Jewelry TV HD
QVC HD


Premium Movie Channels (Excluding West Coast Versions) – 24 Channels
Dish has in SD – 14 Channels
Encore Action HD
Encore Drama HD
Encore Love HD
Encore Mystery HD
Encore WAM! HD
Encore Westerns HD
Flix HD
MoreMax HD
Showtime Beyond HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Starz! Cinema HD
Starz! inBlack HD
Sundance Channel HD
The Movie Channel Xtraa
Dish does not have in SD – 8 Channels
@Max HD
MoviePlex HD
OuterMax HD
Showtime FamilyZone HD
Showtime Next HD
Showtime Women HD
ThrillerMax HD
WMax HD


Channels Not Yet Launched – 46 Channels
SD Version on Dish – 14 Channels
Chiller HD
Documentary Channel HD
Fox Movie Channel HD
God TV HD
Great American Country HD
MTV 2 HD
Oprah Winfrey Network HD
ReezChannel HD
Sleuth HD
Telefutura HD
Telemundo
TVLand HD
Univision HD
Not carried on Dish – 32 Channels (Editorial comment: I doubt some of these niche channels will ever happen)
*-Indicates SD version exists
29 HD Network
3ABN Latino HD
Africa Channel HD*
Black TV News Channel HD
Blue Highways TV HD*
CNN International HD*
ComedyNet HD
Fight Network HD
Fox Sports en Espanol HD*
Gol TV HD *
Gospel Music Channel HD *
I-Life TV HD
ION Life HD*
Italian American Network HD
JCTV HD *
Jewish Life TV HD
Mun2 TV HD
Pursuit Channel HD
Qubo HD*
S|Sports TV HD
Si TV HD
Smile of a Child TV HD
SoapNet HD
Sonbeam Channel HD
Soundtrack Channel HD
TBN Enlace HD
The Church Channel HD
Three Angels Broadcasting Network HD
TV Games Network HD
Veria TV HD
Wine Network HD
Worship Network HD*

Regional Sports Networks – 17 Channels
Braves TV HD
Channel 4 San Diego HD (Padres)
Comcast SportsNet Northwest HD
Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia HD
Comcast SportsNet Southeast HD
Dallas Cowboys Channel HD
FOX College Sports Atlantic HD
FOX College Sports Central HD
FOX College Sports Pacific HD
FOX Sports Carolinas HD
FOX Sports Oklahoma HD
FOX Sports Tennessee HD
Madison Square Garden Network HD
MSG Network + HD
Mid Atlantic Sports Network HD
MountainWest Sports Network HD (2010)
Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network HD

RSN's NOT 24/7 – 26 Channels
Altitude Sports & Entertainment HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet Bay Area HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet New England HD (24/7)
Comcast SportsNet West HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Arizona HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Cincinnati HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Detroit HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Florida HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Midwest HD (24/7)
FOX Sports North HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Northwest HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Ohio HD (Cleveland / Columbus) (24/7)
FOX Sports Pittsburgh HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Prime Ticket HD (L.A.) (24/7)
FOX Sports Rocky Mountain HD (24/7)
FOX Sports South HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Southwest HD (24/7)
FOX Sports West HD (24/7)
FOX Sports Wisconsin HD (24/7)
New England Sports Network HD (24/7)
SportsNet New York (24/7)
SportSouth HD (24/7)
SportsTime Ohio HD (24/7)
Sun Sports HD (24/7)

Adult Channels - 3 Channels
Penthouse TV HD
Playboy TV HD
Spice TV HD

Foreign Channel Imports – 22 Channels
Aqua HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Baby HD (Canadian, 4th Quarter 2009)
Aboriginal Peoples TV Network HD (Canadian)
Central China TV HD
Centre Stage HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Clash HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009
Crafts & Hobbies HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Disney CineMagic HD (British)
EuroSport HD (British)
Eureka! HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Equator HD
Game World HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Horror HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Luxe TV HD (French)
Melody Zen HD (British)
MTVN HD (European)
Oasis HD
Seniors Life HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Treasure HD
Women's Sports HD (Canadian, 3rd Quarter 2009)
Voom HD (Everywhere BUT USA)
 
[FONT=&quot]Why are some RSN's NOT 24/7? CSN Mid-Atlantic studios are HD but they rarely use them, at least with E*. 99.9% of the time they turn on the HD channel for sporting events only. [/FONT]
 
The inclusion of nonexistent HD channels in the list is confusing. In particular, what's up with all of the listed Encore HD channels? AFAIK, none of them exist.

IMO, all channels that aren't broadcast in HD shouldn't be a part of this list -- a list that purports to be a run-down of DISH's non-carried HD channels. I would suggest that a separate reference list of channels not available in HD be established instead.
 
Aliens said:
[FONT=&quot]Why are some RSN's NOT 24/7? CSN Mid-Atlantic studios are HD but they rarely use them, at least with E*. 99.9% of the time they turn on the HD channel for sporting events only. [/FONT]
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Limited bandwidth. Dish uses 2 transponders for HD RSNs. Thus, they can only hold 14-16 of the 26 of them at once. The only way I think we will see 24/7 HD RSNs is either after the Western Arc MPEG4 transition, or if they go on spotbeams.
 

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