I've been reading several claims in other forums that it's actually illegal (in Canada and/or Mexico) to take your receiver outside the US. Can anyone verify the law on this, and whose law it is, and why there is such a law or laws?
Legality of Dish Network in Canada or Mexico
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It's against Dish Network's "Residential Subscriber Agreement" unless it's in a recreational vehicle and not in a residence.
Because of copyright agreements, not law, they are not allowed to knowingly sell to customers outside the US.
That's a far cry from being prohibited by law. All I know is it's not prohibited by US law. I can't speak to Canadian or Mexican law though, so I guess my reply was completely useless.
Because of copyright agreements, not law, they are not allowed to knowingly sell to customers outside the US.
That's a far cry from being prohibited by law. All I know is it's not prohibited by US law. I can't speak to Canadian or Mexican law though, so I guess my reply was completely useless.
Thanks for the reply anyway. So if it's on an RV, can we travel to Canada or Mexico and legally receive all the programming for which we pay?
The other forum, to which I alluded above, was all chaos and confusion about vacation travel to Mexico with a 322. Apparently there was already a Dish Network antenna aligned and ready, which makes it technically possible to receive the CONUS beams, though not necessarilly legal. (Don't know about spot beams.)
So if it's on an RV, can we travel to Canada or Mexico and legally receive all the programming for which we pay?The other forum, to which I alluded above, was all chaos and confusion about vacation travel to Mexico with a 322. Apparently there was already a Dish Network antenna aligned and ready, which makes it technically possible to receive the CONUS beams, though not necessarilly legal. (Don't know about spot beams.)
DISH has no license to broadcast to those countries. I doubt that there are legal penalties against you. Conceivably against DISH if it could be proved that they knowingly sold it for use outside the US but that is not the case.
The US laws has nothing to do with where you are to recieve the signal. If you can get it in Canada, God Bless. but as Geronimo points out. the country, Canada, does not allow broadcast into their country to a fixed reciever of a residence. No license, ergo no permission. "Other Than Canadian" can not get a license. It a little like RADIO FREE EUROPE. It was illegal to listen to it behind the "iron curtain
The CRTC [Canadian Radio-telivision Telecommunications Commision] the equivalant of our FCC prohibits any forign [other than Canadian] or outside broadcasts to a reciever inside Canada. THe original intent is based on 50% Canadian ownership but has been turned on its head by interperting it as meaning 50% Canadian content, by the Canadian Socialist Parlament. Today the 50% content is even moot. Just no Foriegn AKA American capable recievers allowed. Not trying to be political here, but Socialism is what it is.
For a while they where even confiscating c-band BUDs right off the property. THey still can do that now. The RCMP is charged with enforcing the ban on "American" equipment that is capable of recieving "American" content. Not sure if they are busting down doors and doing Eilios Gonzolos type raids loking for "illegal recieving equipment. Not certain if you go to jail on the first offence but I hear the fine is really BIG. As is the confiscation of every thing satiliite. even the coax.
You guys suprised? Why? Come down to the PIT and I'll splain it to you.
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The US laws has nothing to do with where you are to recieve the signal. If you can get it in Canada, God Bless. but as Geronimo points out. the country, Canada, does not allow broadcast into their country to a fixed reciever of a residence. No license, ergo no permission. "Other Than Canadian" can not get a license. It a little like RADIO FREE EUROPE. It was illegal to listen to it behind the "iron curtain
The CRTC [Canadian Radio-telivision Telecommunications Commision] the equivalant of our FCC prohibits any forign [other than Canadian] broadcasts into Canada. THe original intent is based on 50% ownership but has been turned on its head by interperting it as meaning 50% Canadian content, by the Canadian Socialist Parlament. Today the 50%content is even moot. Just no Foriegn AKA American capable recievers allowed. Not trying to be political here, but Socialism is what it is.
For a while they where even confiscating c-band BUDs right off the property. THey still can do that now. The RCMP is charged with enforcing the ban on "American" equipment that is capable of recieving "American" content. Not sure if they are busting down doors and doing Eilios Gonzolos type raids loking for "illegal recieving equipment.
You guys suprised? Why? Come down to the PIT and I'll splain it to you.
This is an excellent, well-informed, and spot-on response post. It ought to be made available to all who have such questions.
One point, If the reciever and "dish" is mobile or portable as in a RV or truck. The DBS co should be aware but even if not as long as the permenant billing address is Good ole USA, the land of the free, and the Vehical is Registered Other than Canadian AKA USA. You good to go. Camping that is.
If your on the Inter-net, it is available. I'm certain there are a lot more twists and ramifications I'm not aware of. I have a friend in St Sulpies that gets "stuff" from me. So I have just enough information to be dangerous.
If your on the Inter-net, it is available. I'm certain there are a lot more twists and ramifications I'm not aware of. I have a friend in St Sulpies that gets "stuff" from me. So I have just enough information to be dangerous.
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Not a problem. You can watch or listen to anything you want. Even Al Jerdersa
[SP?] The beam technique may give you problems but not the law.</IMG>
But we can't legally buy it as a US citizen without going through a Canadian broker. Right? Isn't that why its called "going grey?"
Yes, that's what I thought. But also a Canadian credit card account?
So.. if I wanted to use my brother-in-law's address in Montreal, that would be enough for the address; but I would have to send him money and have him pay the bill (a risky endeavor, since he is a 21 year old College student
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nope. You can use a US CC
Set it up on auto pay with e-bill and no issues
Cool, so you do not need to use a broker anymore? Excellent.
Thanks Iceberg. This is something I need to think seriously about; as E* prices are continually going up.
