Legacy 118.7 options sought

[Mr Tony]

TechPortal (informational > equip info > dish 500+ general info) for Dish 500+ still shows

Receivers NOT compatible with DISH 1000: (*no 129/118.7 support)
1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000, JVC-IRR, DISHPlayer 7100/7200​

There are almost no software release notes for the 4900, so if something has changed I have to rely on users to report it.

thanks bob. We know Phil doesn't like to admit when he's wrong
I've already admitted that the 6000 is quirky but I know the 5000 & 3000 only work with the original 4 slots

 

[Smith P.]

Hope someone who is keep running his 3000 and have 129W will chime; if not then I need clean dust in my closed and find the damn box, update it to latest FW and make screen-shots.
That's will be hilarious to show middle finger to Dish Portal !

 

[Smith P.]

TechPortal (informational > equip info > dish 500+ general info) for Dish 500+ still shows

Receivers NOT compatible with DISH 1000: (*no 129/118.7 support)
1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000, JVC-IRR, DISHPlayer 7100/7200​

There are almost no software release notes for the 4900, so if something has changed I have to rely on users to report it.

Bobabird, here is latest info:

1000 845P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110, 129
[strike]2000[/strike] - FW is not spooling for last year(s)
3000 867P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110, 129
4000 849P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110, 129
5000 870P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110
6000 856P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110, 105, 121, 129, 118
7x00 131P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110
IRR  823P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110

2700 862P: 61.5, 148, 119, 110, 105, 121, 129, 118
3900 P353: 61.5, 148, 119, 110, 105, 121, 129  (EV82, EV91)
4900 P326: 61.5, 148, 119, 110, 105, 121 (EV82, EV91)

 

[BobaBird]

As much as I like the TechPortal's information and dislike its navigation and unsizable shrunken PDFs, I'm not sure I'd tell it "you're #1!" (in either sense ).

P., where did that list of satellites supported by each receiver come from?

 

[Smith P.]

From intelligence analysis.

 

[Smith P.]

I should return to the data - last posts at dbstalk shows an ability of Dish legacy receivers to 'learn' from current stream. Someone reported 3900 recognized 118.7W from D1000+ dish ( only odd tpns, but that's explainable because of band-stacking and lack of DP support).

So, if you have those old receivers, please post your switch matrix data/screen-shot if in your setup you have more then posted above hard-coded sats.

 

[topcat0399]

just for everyones FYI, the LNB's dish uses on the 500+/1000+ dishes are DISH PRO technology. The switch may be either DP or DPP, it depends. Find an old super dish (easy)and buy a used 118.7 repoint kit. as for that receiver......no comment.

 

[Tyralak]

just for everyones FYI, the LNB's dish uses on the 500+/1000+ dishes are DISH PRO technology. The switch may be either DP or DPP, it depends. Find an old super dish (easy)and buy a used 118.7 repoint kit. as for that receiver......no comment.

We know this. The OP wanted a 3rd party solution to keep his legacy system. There are ways to achieve this without using Dish equipment.

 

[vegassatellite]

How about a DP adapter on the 118.7 line before it comes to the legacy switch. After the adapter, put a 2 way 3gig both port power passing splitter on the line and feed those to the switch. Not 100% certain it will work, though.

 

[Smith P.]

That's interesting idea - may I have the DP adapter for test ?

 

[vegassatellite]

PM me an address, I'm sure I've got a used one laying around somewhere.

 

[Tyralak]

Hope someone who is keep running his 3000 and have 129W will chime; if not then I need clean dust in my closed and find the damn box, update it to latest FW and make screen-shots.
That's will be hilarious to show middle finger to Dish Portal !

I ran across this at a customer's house yesterday. It's a 3900 connected to a 1000.2. Here's the screen shot.

 

[Smith P.]

Thanks for the picture, but I mean 3000, not the more advanced 3900.

 

[Smith P.]

thanks bob. We know Phil doesn't like to admit when he's wrong
I've already admitted that the 6000 is quirky but I know the 5000 & 3000 only work with the original 4 slots

Finally I found those old receivers and convince an owner give them a chance.

Nope, the stupid 5000 found one and 1/2 sats with wrong displacement (see a picture below) with latest SW 870P
connected to output#1 or output#4 of DP44 with 119/110/129/118
and PI on output#1 and 622 on output#2. Ugh !

Can't use other receiver [3000] - it doesn't start at all,
TV screen have gray color regardless S-VHS or composite output (not that dead black ), pressed all buttons - no dice.

Continue play with 5000 ( Fathers day ): disconnect all output ports, left PI and 5000 on #1, see what I got . Nothing !
OK. Found the reason for last fail - central wire of coax from PI to DP44 was too short, the DP44 have deep 'throat' and requred the wire comes out of F-connector for 2-3 mm.
A couple more tests: with 119/110 only the 5000 pass tests, but if I connect 129 or 118 to third input, it show the first picture.
So, it not learning form stream, sob.

 

[vegassatellite]

That's interesting idea - may I have the DP adapter for test ?

I just realized there would be a conflict if two receivers wanted different polarity, dp adapter would not ship both down the line.

This will require the 2 way all ports power passing splitter BEFORE two different DP adapters and each adapter connected to port 3A and 3B of the sw64 switch.

 

[Smith P.]

Anyway - you got PM.

 

[Smith P.]

3900 much better.

Tested 3900 on same config - it's works fine for all 4 sats.

 

[vegassatellite]

Anyway - you got PM.

I'm visiting friends today in Vegas, will get the DP adapters together when I get back home.