And imagine, this was suppose to be the thread that we could look at the positive that the man has done , untill the detractors came along, thanks guys.
It all comes down to two things.
As to JT, he, by his own choice, is in that same boat as people like Barry Bonds, Richard Nixon, and such. How many HRs would Bonds have hit, honestly? Where would he rank in the historical fram of baseball, honestly? Would he have been almost what he was by cheating, or would he have been a guy who hit a lot of flyballs to waiting outfields? I don't know. You don't know. Barry Bonds doesn't know. Because he decided to cheat. All discussion of what he was and is begins and ends with cheating, by his own choice. Similarly, in much more important things, in some alternative history world where Watergate is just some dump of a development in DC, what is Richard Nixon's entry in a history book? Is he remembered as the man who openned China, settled Vietnam with honor, toned down the Cold War, finally eradicated that last segregationists from power in the South? Or is he remembered as a mediocre to bad president who tried to play both sides against the middle and destroyed the two party system? Don't know, because, here in the real world, all discussion of Mr. Nixon begins, and ends, with Watergate. With the fact that he was a dishonest person and lost everything because he was a dishonest person. Now, in football terms, is JT REALLY a Big 10 level coach? Is he really fit to be in the same room as people like Joe Paterno? Or is he some I-AA or Div II guy slugging it out with Appy State and NE Oklahoma? Or is he some coach at some middle school somewhere? I don't know. You don't know. He doesn't know. Because, from the day he started at YSU to the day he resigned in disgrace, JT never followed the rules that every one else was following. He acheived things by cheating. Every game he ever had anythng to do with, he was not following the rules. He was paying his players, and others were using amateurs. Really that simple. So no discussion of JT is possible, because no one, including JT, will ever know what JT really would have been, had he decided to be an honest man, rather than the liar, cheat, and hypocrite he is.
The other thing is yelling "NOT" really loudly is not a comeback. You are seriously in denial. OK. You apparently have a lot of your own self-worth tied up in a college football team. You have, for over a decade, watched that school do things you liked. Now you know, deep down, you know, none of it was real. They were cheating. They really did not honestly win those games. Your yelling "NOT" does not change that. Nothing can change that. Someday, most OSU fans will be ashamed of JT and this era of cheating football, and will move on. And, someday, OSU may actually win games on an even playing field with everybody else.