theres a huge difference in having the bandwidth available and actually filling it with 39 HD channels on multiple transponders and kepping the quality up. When do we get the quality back with the ones we have now? AS for Moov, I might trade an ex wife for it. Same thing goees for Bravo HD. Some of these channels are merely place holders, novelties that will never mature into anything and will have to be dropped in the future for voom to survive.