Do the vip receivers have the chip set/circuitry to communicate with the xip receivers and E* isn't allowing the mixed setup? Or are they completely different chip set/circuitry, which doesn't allow shared viewing?
even if it takes 10 years, there has to be some point where you draw the line between legacy installations and future installations.Finally, the notion that they're going to swap out all older receivers for a H/J system is indeed rather wild-eyed if you ask me. The VIP line will be with us probably another 10 years. (OK, that's my WAG). In any case it will be years and cost many millions of $. (Not my millions of $, that's for sure!) It's not going to happen overnight, and I see no reason to infuriate Dish's best customers by imposing this made-up rule without a good reason.
The Hopper is the future of the company. the ViP is a thing of the past.
Time for them to start worrying about adopting to the past and moving ahead looking to the future.
Quite aggressive I must say, some may not like it and I understand that, but I think its a move they need to make.
I'm sure you weren't referring to my reason. I never said it would be overnight, and yes, it will take years and cost millions, but at least it could be an orderly, manageable process. And like you said, there are probably other reasons that we haven't thought of yet.I still think there has got to be another reason nobody has thought up yet. At least I sure hope there's a better reason than the nonsense excuses I see above!
It will probably also help Dish change the western arc to 8PSK, perhaps even MPEG-4 some day... All the returned VIP receivers can be used to replace all the old non 8PSK boxes. There are going to be a lot of Dish customers that do not really care to get the Hopper/Joey (like single TV households). Now they can just get a VIP box to replace their old equipment that Dish got back from a Hopper upgrader.
I bet all the returned VIP receivers find a new home.
Companies don't have rights, people have rights. No, wait, Dish does have the right to kiss..lIceberg said:Its pretty simple really.
Its either regular receivers or Hopper/Joey system. Dish has decided right now to be an EITHER OR. Dish has the right to do really whatever they want
You said it!These threads just get better & better, who needs dish with entertainment like this.
I agree. It makes some sense. Not enough to p*** off so many of us but some sense none the less.I think Mike may have hit on the true reason they are not allowing mixed installations.
Someone could still stack one hopper and one joey at two locations.. So not how much this cuts down.
No the ViP's do not feature the chipset or tuner / modulator for MoCA which is the heart of the Hopper / Joey system.
Companies don't have rights, people have rights. No, wait, Dish does have the right to kiss..l
Never mind.
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I've got to give you that.We might not like the decision to not allow mixed ViP / XiP (Hopper Joey) installations but they are not violating any applicable laws or regulations. Whether or not that's a good business practice remains to be seen.