Online stores are slowly being squuezed out, but just search GOOGLE for the models you want. AND there is nothing wrong with an ebay item as long as the seller is in good standing. I bought my 2nd D*HD receiver via ebay for nearly half of current prices and it had a current generation card that D* acctivated the day it arrived. It also allows you to buy a unit you might prefer that is not being shipped by retailers; which is 99% of the models made.