You will lose the grandfathered $12 price but will ev lowering the $12 hopper to $7 Joey. Your assessment is correct.
I have more Hopper 3 questions
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For your # 1 and 2 questions, add the protection plan. Cancel it after the installation, cancel it a few months later, or just keep it. Your call... They do charge you a penalty for cancelling before "x" days but do the math. I think if you keep it the minimum they require, it comes out about even (no doubt did that way on purpose by Dish).
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I will add two things:
1. Some of the timers that can be created the most easy/quickest/conviniet by Dish design way such as from the EPG, then press the RECORD button or from the Info page, then select RECORD THIS, immediatley creates the timer without presenting the option to select a folder for destination upon completion of the recording.
2. As one who uses Custom Folders for the vast majority of recordings for at least 3 years now, one can oftem remeber that one is better off pressing the SELECT button from the guide, but one does not remember to select the folder more often then one would like to admit
. It is shockingly EASY to pass-up or not even consider that portion of the create timer screeen. There is some "maintenace" and time to fixing this for several recordings for which one intended to send to particular folders and double-checking the many timers to be certain the Folder is selected for destination.3.Perhaps the BIGGEST ANNOYANCE--and one that can be a huge deal breaker for many who otherwise may want to use Customer Folders for household members--is that all recordings have NO SUBFOLDER, or, in other words, in the Custom Folder recordings can NOT be grouped by title like they can be OUTSIDE of Custome Folder from the standard DVR recordings list/display. So, the display is the same tile displayed several times in various places (if one uses sort by DATE) throughout the Custom Folder. This creates an organization of recordings that is UNACCEPTABLE to all member of our household: it is overwhelmingly confusing, even if sorting by NAME because you may have page after page of the same show before you can get to the other different shows. The number of individual tiles for each and every recording--and we have it in the HUNDREDS, presents a never ending sea of recordings and tiles that can't be grouped by NAME. Cumbersome to say the least and sometimes one can't find the specific redcording one is looking for.
Fixing #3 would go about 87% towards making truly useful Custom Folders for household members. Fixing #1 & #2 would bring near certainty to always selecting the folder for the recording.
I am SPECULATING the ethernet transfer may be faster (possibly much faster) than using an external hard drive.
A test transfer I did ran about 0.5 GB per minute (8-9 MB/s), well under the limits of either an external drive or a 100 Mb ethernet connection. There is some encryption going on as part of this process and that may contribute to the slowness. Since an ethernet transfer is going from one internal drive to another it makes sense they could bypass the encryption step and the process might run much, much faster. Even if the ethernet transfer route encrypted and decrypted and resulted in the same rates, it would be only one transfer compared to two to move from one Hopper to the EHD then another to move from EHD to the new Hopper.
At the rate I measured, transferring 600 GB to an external hard drive would take 18-20 hours. We don't know yet how fast Hopper 3 will transfer material from an external to it's internal drive. That direction could take less time since the processor in the H3 is faster.
So will the ethernet transfer be available from day 1 or would it be better to use a external hard drive to transfer the recordings from a original hopper to the new hopper 3 ?
No and the reality is, when Dish "plans" to add a feature later, it often never gets implemented.... External HDD works now, so use that.
I will stick to the external HDD then. If the dvr has 366 recording and is 40% full how big of a hard drive will I need to back it up ?
I have a extra 500gb external hard drive would that hold all of the recordings?
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Got to admit I don't know. At CES they were telling me they hoped to have it for launch, but not 100%.
At my local BJ's Wholesale club they had a 2TB WD Essentials USB drive for $109 and directly above it was a 4TB WD Essentials USB Drive also for $109!
Which would you get! (I almost purchased one, but tight on $$$ and what am I going to do with another external Hard Drive?)
I guess I'll be in the market for another drive. Is there a specific one that seems to perform well with the hoppers? Or is there any that I should stay away from?
40% of 2 TB is 800 GB but Dish uses some disk space for other things. If Dish sets said 500 GB, you still probably have 600 GB to transfer. So 500GB is probably not enough. But if you are transferring content from one Hopper to another, you could do it in pieces if it all doesn't fit in 500 GB. If you want to transfer all the material off your original Hopper before the H3 install, I'd go for at least 1 TB.
Transfers to/from the EHD on H3 MAY be faster so you might look for a USB 3 external. They shouldn't be that much more these days. But do make sure it's a powered drive. USB powered drives aren't supported and don't always work. Inserting a powered USB hub in the path should power a bus-powered drive.
Most people recommend leaving content on the external HD since you won't loose content if the receiver fails, and for some reason internal drives seem to fail a lot. (I've had a couple failures since Hopper came out.) I use an external RAID (not supported but works great). The only down side to moving content to the EHD is you can't get to it from DishAnywhere.
Well I plan on deleting some recordings, so I could possibly make it some what smaller.
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This is exactly why we have two Hoppers for two people (myself and my wife). We watch some shows together, and each have our own shows as well. She gets super-annoyed when one of "my" shows appears in her list, and I get frustrated by the horrible clutter if I try to put "my" shows in a folder.
So unless this is fixed with the Hopper 3, we'll just stick to the 2 Hoppers...
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