Hundreds of Thousands to lose Internet In July?

[rockymtnhigh]

I think the reality is it is being done, not necessarily at the ISP level, but through snooping by the NSA. And done in massive amounts. Where everything we say in open forums - including this thread, which of course has put flags on our own usernames (which is fine by me, since the NSA can go #$%%) And heck, I fully expect my emails are illegally tracked as well. Its one of my on-going battles as a civil libertarian.

 

[mdonnelly]

I think the reality is it is being done, not necessarily at the ISP level, but through snooping by the NSA. And done in massive amounts. Where everything we say in open forums - including this thread, which of course has put flags on our own usernames (which is fine by me, since the NSA can go #$%%) And heck, I fully expect my emails are illegally tracked as well. Its one of my on-going battles as a civil libertarian.

Having worked at NSA in a previous life, I'm sure that they don't read your emails looking for snide remarks about the Congress or the President, or for sordid details of your personal life. Not to say that they couldn't, but the fact is they have bigger fish to fry. Rest easy, the thought police aren't coming to break down your door.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Having worked at NSA in a previous life, I'm sure that they don't read your emails looking for snide remarks about the Congress or the President, or for sordid details of your personal life. Not to say that they couldn't, but the fact is they have bigger fish to fry. Rest easy, the thought police aren't coming to break down your door.

Well documented that there are search algorithms used to search looking for plenty of things, and as you say "not that they couldn't". I am not losing sleep, but I resent how government violates my privacy on their own whim, without a warrant.

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[John Kotches]

Having worked at NSA in a previous life, I'm sure that they don't read your emails looking for snide remarks about the Congress or the President, or for sordid details of your personal life. Not to say that they couldn't, but the fact is they have bigger fish to fry. Rest easy, the thought police aren't coming to break down your door.

If you had worked at the NSA in the past, you wouldn't be saying so today

OK, seriously one of the biggest consumers of compute cycles is the NSA. They also own several of the most massive supercomputers around.

As Rocky indicated they just have to parse packets for keywords, phrases etc and flag messages for further analysis. Forums are easy "prey" for crawlers/spiders/robots for parsing. It's the encrypted traffic that makes them work a little bit.

I too am concerned because if it's happening, and I think it is, it amounts to domestic surveillance without a warrant. As I said earlier my point of view is libertarian in this and I recognize others might not agree with me.



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[mdonnelly]

... It's the encrypted traffic that makes them work a little bit.

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I know. That's what I worked on.

 

[John Kotches]

I know. That's what I worked on.

The uber-threaded sparc machines are reportedly very good for this task.

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[truckracer]

control and monitoring is why the internet was born. a universal control and access global information grid. The internet's deepest roots are about identifying each and every machine and controlling it. there never was or will ever be anything private on the internet. privacy and internet is an oxymoron.

i would compare internet privacy to having a private conversation on a cb or ham radio.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

control and monitoring is why the internet was born. a universal control and access global information grid. The internet's deepest roots are about identifying each and every machine and controlling it. there never was or will ever be anything private on the internet. privacy and internet is an oxymoron.

i would compare internet privacy to having a private conversation on a cb or ham radio.

Except for the fact that when it went commercial and public, and not just an ARPAnet project, it runs into pesky little things like the Bill of Rights. I refuse to accept that just because it was created as a government and military network that constitutional rights don't apply.