If this happens I can see mass panic New Jersey Herald - Hundreds of thousands may lose Internet in July
Hundreds of Thousands to lose Internet In July?
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They are not really losing internet, just that they have infected machines that have hacked DNS. The FBI has been running the hacker site to enable these computer to continue to function like a normal computer while corporations, users and the government disinfected their machines. Now they will simply stop providing the DNS redirect and anyone left still infected will have to disinfect.
You would still have to install it and such. I just say cut them off, ISPs did it before when other traffic was coming from a customers network. It causes people to fix their crap real quick.
Why is the FBI running this at all? This could easily cross the line into surveillance / wiretapping without a warrant.
Does anyone else see this or am I becoming paranoid?
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Does anyone else see this or am I becoming paranoid?
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John Kotches said:
And we have a winner. You are not being paranoid at all.
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rockymtnhigh said:
You will see more and more government taking on jobs that was once done by private corporations. Everyone wants it...everybody cries to the nanny state for their every problem making authority bigger than ever. it will get worse.
The government seized the pirate domain names/servers when they took down the bot net. They could have just shut them off, but a large number of government computers were infected also, so they ran the servers while they disinfected their own machines.
Mike:
The potential for abuse is significant, and of late the government's record as a benign entity is not anywhere near what I would call stellar.
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The potential for abuse is significant, and of late the government's record as a benign entity is not anywhere near what I would call stellar.
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As someone who use to own an ISP I think it's safe to say that everything you do online is monitored and logged.
Big brother is watching...
Big brother is watching...
I did follow the link (cautiously). If you go a page or two in, there's a list of bad DNS server IP addresses. My DNS server wasn't on the list, so I backed out quickly.
Anyone ever seen a virus that tells you you have a virus so click here or do that to get rid of it? When you click here or do that you are then infected. Maybe I'm just paranoid but that is what this reminds me of. I would think something from the government would be hosted on a government site.
The link tells you to open a command prompt and check the DNS entries(they provide a list of bad ones)..my computer was good so I didn't take the second step and try to "fix" it
I checked it out "cautiously," & it seems that it is for PC computers. Since I have a Mac,whatever they had had as far as "fixes" go,didn't apply to me(doesn't mean that those sneaky b******* wouldn't have tried to upload any "spyware" on my computer anyway).
CALEA - ISP's requirement to log user's data in case the government wants access to it. Just read last week where a company wants to have an unmonitored service. Good luck with that lol.
Impractical and it's something the big providers are fighting because of the costs involved.
Imagine you have 5 million subscribers. if every user everyday generates 60k of log data thats 9 terabytes of data on a monthly basis. over 100 terabytes for each year. if you triple the log utilization then it's a terabyte of day today. The catch here, is that you won't be storing these on isolated 3 terabyte commodity drives at 200 dollars each.
so now you're talking about maybe 1,000,000 dollars or more per year to store all the data. if it's a legal mandate cost will go up for consumers. there's no way around it and people will not be happy.
I realize that my point of view leans towards libertarian on this topic and I'm just fine with that
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Impractical and it's something the big providers are fighting because of the costs involved.
Imagine you have 5 million subscribers. if every user everyday generates 60k of log data thats 9 terabytes of data on a monthly basis. over 100 terabytes for each year. if you triple the log utilization then it's a terabyte of day today. The catch here, is that you won't be storing these on isolated 3 terabyte commodity drives at 200 dollars each.
so now you're talking about maybe 1,000,000 dollars or more per year to store all the data. if it's a legal mandate cost will go up for consumers. there's no way around it and people will not be happy.
I realize that my point of view leans towards libertarian on this topic and I'm just fine with that
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Even at 1 million /year that is just 20 cents per user/year in your example. It is quite doable and of course is being done....
mike, this is not going to be solved with a bunch of commodity harddrives. that was my point.
enterprise grade storage,and the infrastructure to surround it will cost more than you realize and far more than 20 cents per user per year.
and that's just the hardware for storage, it doesn't count any of the rest of the infrastructure required to take care of all the data. just logging it is useless unless you have some means of analysis.
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