john262 said:The thing that's ridiculous about that package is that even though you have to pay through the nose for it you still have to sit through all of the commercials. .
Bruno said:So you would rather watch a blank screen? In the c-band days the screen would go blank on some channels during commerercials. Buy a TIVO and run 20 minutes behind and fast forward thru the commericials. Works for me...
dfergie said:Before Sunday Ticket ruined it all for us, you mostly got the Announcers B.S. during the commercials...(raw feeds) was actually quite good as they voiced their opinions before they started killing the mikes during commercials And you never missed a second of the action because the commercials ran long...btw still waffling on ordering or not...
john262 said:Actually, I should have explained the alternative that I prefer rather than just complaining. The announcers could do commentary and they could show highlights of the game and highlights of other games in progress or recently completed during the time alloted for commercial breaks which would still be seen on broadcast network feeds shown in local markets.
Technically, it would be very easy to do that. But if not, yes, I would prefer a blank screen rather than commercials.
I had always thought that the concept of pay tv was that you paid a fee in lieu of commercials, not in addition to commercials. What they do now would be the equivalent of interrupting HBO movies for commercials.
How many HBO subscribers would stand for that? They are paying for HBO so they don't have to see commercials. The same should apply to NFL Sunday Ticket, and other similar packages such as NBA TV.
As I said before, I think it's pure greed, plain and simple. They want us to pay for the package and see commercials too, which IMO is unfair. And yes, I could use a Tivo, but after paying so much for the NFL package I don't want to pay even more for a Tivo unit.
Way too much!Kali05 said:how much is sunday nfl ticket this year does anyone know?
It's obvious you have never worked on a pro sports broadcast or seen what goes on in the booth and the truck at one of these events. The announcers are using this time to take care of things they couln't take care of when their mics are live, and (more importantly) the production crew is getting set for the return to the game. Also, in most cases, the national commercials are fed from the truck on site, as there is no set schedule for commercial breaks in a live, unscripted broadcast such as sports. You have to remember ST is piggybacking on the feeds of CBS and Fox. They are not being produced for the exclusive use of NFL ST.john262 said:Actually, I should have explained the alternative that I prefer rather than just complaining. The announcers could do commentary and they could show highlights of the game and highlights of other games in progress or recently completed during the time alloted for commercial breaks which would still be seen on broadcast network feeds shown in local markets.
That would be true IF NFL ST was produced by and for the exclusie use of ST subscribers. See previous comment above.I had always thought that the concept of pay tv was that you paid a fee in lieu of commercials, not in addition to commercials. What they do now would be the equivalent of interrupting HBO movies for commercials.
How many HBO subscribers would stand for that? They are paying for HBO so they don't have to see commercials. The same should apply to NFL Sunday Ticket, and other similar packages such as NBA TV.
To me, it sounds like cluelessness. As for Tivo, it's not as if the Tivo can only be used for NFL ST. In fact, given a choice of wathcing almost any program (except breaking news) live or with Tivo, my wife and I would prefer Tivo, so we can skip commercials. Try it, you'll like it, especially if you hate commercials as much as you seem to!As I said before, I think it's pure greed, plain and simple. They want us to pay for the package and see commercials too, which IMO is unfair. And yes, I could use a Tivo, but after paying so much for the NFL package I don't want to pay even more for a Tivo unit.
Well if that's the case, why do they charge so damned much for it? If they are charging that much they should be able to afford to do their own productions rather than piggybacking on someone else's, or at least they could insert their own announcers during breaks. If local broadcast network affiliates can insert their own content into network broadcasts on cue, then D* should be able to do the same thing quite seamlessly.You have to remember ST is piggybacking on the feeds of CBS and Fox. They are not being produced for the exclusive use of NFL ST.
john262 said:Well if that's the case, why do they charge so damned much for it? If they are charging that much they should be able to afford to do their own productions rather than piggybacking on someone else's, or at least they could insert their own announcers during breaks. If local broadcast network affiliates can insert their own content into network broadcasts on cue, then D* should be able to do the same thing quite seamlessly.
john262 said:No, I understand the NFL quite well. It's an outrage that they have to shell out billions for it. As I said, it's geed, pure and simple. They shouldn't have to shell out the billions, and we shouldn't have to shell out hundreds to see these games when we also have to sit through the commercials. Yes, you can surf to another game, but with the huge numbers of commercials they play chances are the other game that you surf to will also have commercials playing. The number of commercials they have on these broadcasts is obscene.