We got a Toshiba 57H83 in 2005, I think. Didn't have a digital tuner yet either (added them the following year, maybe). Also just had (1) DVI port, (2) component inputs, and typical lower-quality ones. Had Dish at the time with their 522 receiver. We had gotten addicted to having a DVR so I inquired with about getting their HD-DVR. It was the 921 or 942 - can't recall now. Dish said, "$999 and free installation" and I said "no thanks". Went to the dark side, Time Warner, for just under two years. They gave me a leave-satellite promotion (50% off first year, 25% off second year) and an HD-DVR (Scientific-Atlanta 8300HD). We got the DVR service we needed and I got HD service (my wife couldn't tell the difference !!). Just before my two-year deal was up, I returned to Dish and got a ViP622, then a 722k, and now a Hopper (on a 50" Panasonic LED that I just bought 3 weeks ago).