since I had an lnbf installed incorrectly I had duplicate tp's with both vertical and horizontal listed. as I am going through scanning the satellites with my azbox I have been going to the edit/delete page and deleting all the tp's and rescanning the satellite. unfortunately this time I forgot to move the cursor to the tp and instead I was happily deleting satellites instead... as soon as I realized this I shut off the receiver. I do have a saved backup in the last couple of days but how hard is it to input the satellite? I am thinking it could be easier to delete and input a satellite instead of trying to delete all the tp's on the satellite. good thing it is fall and I don't have much gardening to do so I have the time to play with this box. charlie